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Old 10-25-2007, 17:36 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Any idea what CVN-79 and -80 are going to be called? I guess Bill Clinton will get -79, but -80 can't go for George W. Bush because that would just cause confusion with CVN-77.
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Old 10-25-2007, 19:37 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I like Prince of Wales and Queen Elizabeth, both are historical ships names.

as for the type 45's, i like daring and dauntless, but the rest are just bad. Id like to see names like Indefatigable, Renown, Warspite, Hotspur, Audacious, Repulse, and Vanguard.
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Old 10-25-2007, 21:36 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Any idea what CVN-79 and -80 are going to be called? I guess Bill Clinton will get -79, but -80 can't go for George W. Bush because that would just cause confusion with CVN-77.
All CVN's after the Gerald R. Ford are unnamed and will remain that way, probably for the next 5-6 years, at the very least.

They're assigned hull numbers once they're authorized but they usually don't give a name to a ship until they're close to being ready for the start of construction.

So, whoever is SECNAV a few years from now will name CVN-79.
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Old 10-25-2007, 22:34 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Clinton will NEVER get a carrier named after him/her. If it happens, I'll pull a Baldwin and move to Europe.
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Old 10-26-2007, 07:34 AM   #35 (permalink)
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All CVN's after the Gerald R. Ford are unnamed and will remain that way, probably for the next 5-6 years, at the very least.

They're assigned hull numbers once they're authorized but they usually don't give a name to a ship until they're close to being ready for the start of construction.

So, whoever is SECNAV a few years from now will name CVN-79.
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Old 10-26-2007, 07:39 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Clinton will NEVER get a carrier named after him/her. If it happens, I'll pull a Baldwin and move to Europe.
Probably one of the best presidents you have had in a while. well from an international point of view.
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Old 10-26-2007, 08:36 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I like Prince of Wales and Queen Elizabeth, both are historical ships names.

as for the type 45's, i like daring and dauntless, but the rest are just bad. Id like to see names like Indefatigable, Renown, Warspite, Hotspur, Audacious, Repulse, and Vanguard.

Get a HMS Defiant in there. At least it begins with a D.

I must admit the name HMS Duncan doesnt do anything for me, nor HMS Diamond.
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Old 10-26-2007, 12:34 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Me thinks that when the two new carriers hit the British fleet you will have an abundance of names to use. Reason being..grapevine has it that quite a few shall be taken out of service (escorts,minelayers etc) but they will retain the eight destroyers in the fleet. We shall see.
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Old 10-26-2007, 18:18 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Just because it irritated the nuclear freeze luvin' neighbors, I liked USS Simon Bolivar. ;-)

From a personal perspective, Saratoga is a favorite. I served on her and my father served on both carriers named Saratoga. Family connections aside, Sara had the best chow in the navy.

Nimitz is a fitting name for a class of carriers. USS Nimitz was the cleanest ship I ever served aboard. Nukes are nice that way.
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Old 10-26-2007, 18:35 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Clinton will NEVER get a carrier named after him/her. If it happens, I'll pull a Baldwin and move to Europe.
But will you actually LEAVE--unlike Baldwin, who just spoke but did not act upon his words?

P.S. I'd rather he leave than you, Gun.

Keeping in mind that I'm former Army, I've always wondered why some of our larger ships (floating tanks to me! ) weren't given names like "Juggernaut," "Hammer," "Grizzly," etc. Something such that when the enemy does find a way to read their names, they think twice about taking them on. (I had a tank named "Juggernaut" once--it was the most ragged rattle-trap I've ever loved!)
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Old 10-26-2007, 19:29 PM   #41 (permalink)
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But will you actually LEAVE--unlike Baldwin, who just spoke but did not act upon his words?
Of course not. Hence I said I'll pull a "Baldwin." America with a Clinton in the white house is still better than most of Europe. At least I have places to hide my guns.

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P.S. I'd rather he leave than you, Gun.
Thank you for the endorsement. To be fair to him, he's been quiet lately. I think he learned that making outrageous comments doesn't earn him points with his audience.
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Probably one of the best presidents you have had in a while. well from an international point of view.
Certainly not worthy of lending his name to a CV though, very few politicians are.
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Old 10-26-2007, 23:32 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Probably one of the best presidents you have had in a while. well from an international point of view.
Clinton was "less disruptive" because he wants to be liked. He has no principle. He just wants people to like him, maybe some fat intern action, and then retire to do his speech circuit and book deal.

Bush appears to be a "cowboy" because he doesn't really care what people think of him. He'll do what he believes is the best for this country, and then best for the world.

Clinton is like Chamberlain while Bush is more like Churchill.
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i totally fail to see any connection between Bush and Churchill. Churchill was an inspiring hero, people loved him, and Bush is a hated fool.
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Old 10-27-2007, 13:57 PM   #45 (permalink)
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i totally fail to see any connection between Bush and Churchill. Churchill was an inspiring hero, people loved him, and Bush is a hated fool.
Says the man too lazy to post what country he's from.

Personally I think Gunnuts assessment is right on the mark. Churchill was seen as a fool following Galipoli and his idea of attacking the "soft underbelly" of Italy was less than stellar so he had his detractors as well.
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