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Old 12-18-2006, 03:37 AM   #61 (permalink)
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as for the cav weapons,

I guess the last word on the USN's cav weapons might go something like, "lost but not forgotten".

the USN already has cav weapons operationally deployed/employed. Both Galrahn and RickUSN will probably be aware of it/them.
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Old 12-18-2006, 03:42 AM   #62 (permalink)
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the USN already has cav weapons operationally deployed/employed. Both Galrahn and RickUSN will probably be aware of it/them.
I guess it does. There was enough time to catch up even if there was nothing in the begining... and we know that USN was working on this for long. So we are in the new age - short range battles between subs would be now much more decisive and faster!!!
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Old 12-18-2006, 04:01 AM   #63 (permalink)
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So we are in the new age - short range battles between subs would be now much more decisive and faster!!!
the weapons aren't sub based - yet. UDT is undergoing a huge transformation. Its far more significant IMV than the F-22/JSF media events, and/but its deliberately being kept low key.
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Old 12-18-2006, 04:41 AM   #64 (permalink)
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the weapons aren't sub based - yet. UDT is undergoing a huge transformation. Its far more significant IMV than the F-22/JSF media events, and/but its deliberately being kept low key.
but why would you need a non sub based cav weapon? Isn't it faster to deliver torpedo to the point with a rocket rather than shoot these 10km with a non-guided cav torpedo/shell? I mean your rocket will cover those 10km much faster and then your torpedo would be very close to targe!!!
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Old 12-18-2006, 04:46 AM   #65 (permalink)
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but why would you need a non sub based cav weapon? Isn't it faster to deliver torpedo to the point with a rocket rather than shoot these 10km with a non-guided cav torpedo/shell? I mean your rocket will cover those 10km much faster and then your torpedo would be very close to targe!!!
  1. you're assuming that its a torpedo.
  2. you're assuming an anti-sub role.

UDT involves more than torpedoes... and/or submarines
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Old 12-18-2006, 08:17 AM   #66 (permalink)
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  1. you're assuming that its a torpedo.
  2. you're assuming an anti-sub role.

UDT involves more than torpedoes... and/or submarines
The RAMICs has been deployed already? Wasn't there some problems with it or something?
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Old 12-18-2006, 08:40 AM   #67 (permalink)
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The RAMICs has been deployed already? Wasn't there some problems with it or something?
RAMICs is still going through updates. The irony of RAMICs is that the original 20mm project was achieving 1 shot 1 kill to a "substantial" depth. When USN hijacked Rods project and forced it to go to 30mm they blew out the accuracy stats. The round started coning due to the change in recoil characteristics. Rule No1: when the designer knows what he's doing - let him be and go and annoy another project instead.

Some of the old team are now on an australian project and there are two other US UDT projects underway that I'm aware of. (my last contact with ex-R-team members being Nov 06)
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Old 12-18-2006, 22:23 PM   #68 (permalink)
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But I cannot imagine them insisting on 30mm without a very compelling reason if the existing 20mm works fine and meets the requirement. Would one of the other 2 UDT projects be the SUPERCAV project with the VLA motor?
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Old 12-18-2006, 22:27 PM   #69 (permalink)
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But I cannot imagine them insisting on 30mm without a very compelling reason if the existing 20mm works fine and meets the requirement.
can't really comment as its a (potential) 3 way litigous issue. (IP challenges)


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Would one of the other 2 UDT projects be the SUPERCAV project with the VLA motor?
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