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Old 02-20-2006, 14:13 PM   #16 (permalink)
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For Sniper & Normy:
Sniper, please tell me where to send the sympathy card when your 140 mph joy ride hits a brick lying in the road and sends you spinning in the air like a bullet and ricochetting off a windmill.
That my friend is why god invented the steering wheel and brake pedal(and OMG does the 928 have brakes and superlative high speed handling!).

It is not 'joyriding' when the motor is only turning 3800rpm in top gear cruising along at a speed it was designed to travel at for hours at a time in complete safety on the autobahn.

In a 928 170+ is joyriding.

140mph in a 928S is IMO safer than 55mph in a Ford Taurus. At those speeds, the braking distance to 0mph is about the same for both.

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Old 02-20-2006, 14:24 PM   #17 (permalink)
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cRustyBattleship... I didn't see any spray materials on the foundations. The only other thing we messed with was gray "blankets" with RAM materials sewn within. We laced it over objects on the helo deck. The stuff just looked like standard gray Herculite material but it was developed by Westinghouse (IIRC) and we had the contractor engineer with us as we installed them.
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Old 02-20-2006, 23:37 PM   #18 (permalink)
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cRustyBattleship... I didn't see any spray materials on the foundations. The only other thing we messed with was gray "blankets" with RAM materials sewn within. We laced it over objects on the helo deck. The stuff just looked like standard gray Herculite material but it was developed by Westinghouse (IIRC) and we had the contractor engineer with us as we installed them.
We finally wound up using the blankets ONLY up forward where the fashion plates from 01 to 03 level come out to the shell. Even then, we only had to "hide" the pocket above 02 level.

Lacing blankets around other equipment, however, was used for the "quickie" installations we did in the Gulf. Did two FFGs then with only 10 to 14 days installation time each. One of them didn't work so well (the 3M adhesive was outdated and the glued on material kept falling off). The other worked very well and an Exocet went right over the top of her. She was used later to take an Iraqi held oil island and as long as she didn't present a broadside to the island's Radar she came within a hundred yards or so of it. Then her helos came up over the horizon, one landed on the Island's helo deck just as the ship's Captain turned to ship to be seen and with the bull horn shouting for the Iraqi's to surrender. The crew chief in the helo jumped out, drew his pistol and merely said "stick em up" (or something to that effect). A debriefing of the Iraqi Radar operated devulged that all he saw on Radar was a couple of fishing boats, not a 3,100 ton Frigate.

Oh yeah, one more report I got on that from one of our teams we sent over to Bahrain (sp). They were in the "O" club when an officer of one ship was mentioning to the officer of the Stealth ship that there must be something wrong with his Radar because sometimes that ship disappears completely even when anchored in the harbor. About 4 people, including 2 from NAVSEA jumped on him, sat him down and just said "Shut up."

Of course, that highlighted another problem. How do you come into FRIENDLY waters at night and nobody can see you in front of them. So that led to another design program to build large flat panels that could unfold to expose 90 degree inside corners so another ship CAN spot you on Radar.

No rest for the wicked.
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Old 02-21-2006, 00:02 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I'd forgotten that we used a special trichlor-based green adhesive to glue the stuff on. In 20 years of using various adhesives that the Navy bought, I'd have to say that even very outdated adhesives work well if you just allow more time for the stuff to set up.
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Old 02-22-2006, 11:46 AM   #20 (permalink)
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We finally wound up using the blankets ONLY up forward where the fashion plates from 01 to 03 level come out to the shell. Even then, we only had to "hide" the pocket above 02 level.

Lacing blankets around other equipment, however, was used for the "quickie" installations we did in the Gulf. Did two FFGs then with only 10 to 14 days installation time each. One of them didn't work so well (the 3M adhesive was outdated and the glued on material kept falling off). The other worked very well and an Exocet went right over the top of her. She was used later to take an Iraqi held oil island and as long as she didn't present a broadside to the island's Radar she came within a hundred yards or so of it. Then her helos came up over the horizon, one landed on the Island's helo deck just as the ship's Captain turned to ship to be seen and with the bull horn shouting for the Iraqi's to surrender. The crew chief in the helo jumped out, drew his pistol and merely said "stick em up" (or something to that effect). A debriefing of the Iraqi Radar operated devulged that all he saw on Radar was a couple of fishing boats, not a 3,100 ton Frigate.

Oh yeah, one more report I got on that from one of our teams we sent over to Bahrain (sp). They were in the "O" club when an officer of one ship was mentioning to the officer of the Stealth ship that there must be something wrong with his Radar because sometimes that ship disappears completely even when anchored in the harbor. About 4 people, including 2 from NAVSEA jumped on him, sat him down and just said "Shut up."

Of course, that highlighted another problem. How do you come into FRIENDLY waters at night and nobody can see you in front of them. So that led to another design program to build large flat panels that could unfold to expose 90 degree inside corners so another ship CAN spot you on Radar.

No rest for the wicked.
Now imagine a newly designed refitted/updated Iowa class BB being able to do just that. Scarey huh? Hehehehehe only if your a foe. Ahh one can only wish.
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Old 02-25-2006, 11:20 AM   #21 (permalink)
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When the US Navy took down the Iranian Navy during the 80s(Operation Praying Mantis) several small frigate sized Iranian vessels were hit with numerous harpoons and did not sink.

AShMs generally suck for the actual sinking of vessels.
I wonder what would happen if GBU-28 bunker-busters were used...
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Old 02-27-2006, 04:02 AM   #22 (permalink)
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How does/did AEMSS figure into all of this and how many ships use(d) it?
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