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I visited websites of BBC, CNN and FoxNews daily during the conflict. It was funny - at the very moment Georgians said somethig, it was reported as a fact. 'Russians have taken Gori' anyone? Russian media reported all the same, with one important difference - all those 'facts' were accompanied by 'Georgians say'. It was enough and helped to understand that it maybe fact, maybe not, but Georgians said.
Reporting opinions as facts and facts as opinions isn't really what they call 'telling the truth', so I fail to see that western 'free press' is somehow better in this regard than Russian.
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All media, the world over, are biased.
What's new about that? If anyone feels that they are not biased, then that view itself, is biased!
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Responding to the original message: is easy to destroy some undeveloped country in your back yard, Sadam have done the same and where is him now? There was no need for the Russian army destroy civilian houses and lives, the way it did. No one is trying to invade or destroy Russia. This kind of behavior is to distract the internal oppositions by creating a foreign enemy... is the oldest deception in the book. Why don't the Russian media and public opinion concentrate their attentions on corruption and lack of democratic control of state power? |
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First of all, I try to avoid the word 'popaganda' by all means. I'd call it bias. Here I have to agree with Ray that all media are biased in one way or another. Next, I didn't speak about dozens of countries, I just named three sources, and explained, why in this particular case they look much more biased than russian ones. If you want to argue my view, bring your examples, and drop general phrases.
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Do you really believe all these thoughts and ask me something like "how much of these true facts were reported in your media"? Right? And please coul you give me a link to the source that ever mentioned annexation of SO and A?! Who says about allowing looting?! CNN?! haha. |
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1) The climate of SO is very hot. Survivors buried corpses everywhere where there might. It was shown on our TV (along with inspecton of dozens geargeans troops with blacks (0-o ?!) among them. 2) CNN showed interview with some ossetian doctor from one of several field hospitals. They distorted the meaning of his speech during translation and cutted some parts off: he said that no one can get out of town because of the bombing, so the number is that low. That lay was spread everywhere as a fact 3) All facts you mentioned are discussed in Russian news. |
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Bring your examples and let's operate confirmed facts by vids or fotos . Any normal person won't support the killing of civilians. Unlikely we are arguing about it. The difference between us is in information base. |
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so I fail to see that western 'free press' is somehow better in this regard than Russian.[/QUOTE]
Yes you named tree sources but i believe that "Western" was your word. And i stand by my comment. If any NATO bomb kills anyone you can easily see manifestations on the street (ex or actual communist party members, the poor bastards fail to realize that Russia is no longer communist). Russian planes destroy dozens of houses and its nothing. If it smells... |
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US, UK, Germany are in fact controlled by some president that tend to kill or put in prison those who dare to criticize him ![]() Yes the cold war is Back. What make me stunned is the fact that Russia and EU/UE have so much to gain by working together, but in stead the mentality of the ex KGB gains preponderance. EU/UE don't posses any threat to Russia, only in the old cold war mentality. |
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/me dont remembers any manifestations in NATO countries /me confused!
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It was a doctor at Tisvalli's hospital, not a field hospital which by the way would be Russian military. |
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EXILED ONLINE - MANKIND’S ONLY ALTERNATIVE » War Nerd: South Ossetia, The War of My Dreams - By Gary Brecher
It's so funny to read "banned in Russia" from Moscow =))) Zraver, i've changed a little my position during our conversation, so I'm waiting for exact numbers of killed. Vids are interviews with refugees, I'l post'em here later (have a lot of work today, no time to translate). Now the problem is: Georgians now can not control (and some times don't want to) their own territory and protect it from ossetians. If our army leaves - there will be another genocide - of georgeans by ossetians. |
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