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    Thanks Gun!

    But to confess, I too spent over $400 on the build. Now I have to figure out what it's worth for insurance and tax donation purposes. Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Builder 2010 View Post
    Got the chance to do a little work late this afternoon and an hour tonight and made some nice progress on Turret #3. Finished putting the PE on this one and it started getting easier...note, not easy, easier. I'm still trying to develop a way to apply the super glue in tinier ammounts. My gluing does not meet my standards.

    I'm including a picture of the Small Shop holding tool in use. The part I'm cutting is #225. You can just see the attachment lines that will be cut to free up the ladder underneath. You clamp the piece you want to cut underneath the beveled edge. I also learned that you apply pressure on the cutting blade straight down. You don't slide it back and forth in a sawing motion. It will always pull at the part and deform it. Straight down pressure keeps the part's shape. You then rotate the holding tool and cut the opposite edge. The black plexiglass plate under the parts is included in the tool. It gives you great contrast so you can see what you're doing, and the cut parts stand out nicely.

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    To make it easier to hold the turrets without damaging the fragile PE and to air brush them, I drilled appropriate holes in a plank. This worked well for the subesquent steps like drilling out the blast bags and fastening the rest of the PE railings and such.

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    I wanted to try mounting the brass gun barrels and decided that the old Missouri could take part in sacrificing itself for the cause. I removed its turret #2...forcibly... and sawed off the plastic barrels. I filed flat all three togehter and then used a prick punch to locate the centers. I'm usually pretty good at this. I had even drilled out the plastic barrels of the old Mo with a scale 1/350th sized 16" bore, so this was easy. I used a small pilot drill in a pin vise and then opened it up to the required 2.0mm. This is then followed up with a 1/8" drill to countersink the opening. The barrel fit perfectly and looks real good.

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    I then cleaned up the blast bags on the plastic guns and glued them to the new turret. It is easier to saw and drill all three guns at the same depth and angle when their fastened to the turret. I'm toying with different ideas for the slide area of the gun just as it enters the blast bag. I bought some 1/16" chrome tape that I may use or go back to my trusty aluminum foil with foil adhesive on the back. Using the matte side and then toning down the shine and color to make it look like well-greased steel may work better. I'm afraid the tape is too thick. Painting the brass with paint isn't my first or second choice. It'd be great if I could get someone to electroplate the barrel and then mask and paint the rest.

    Here's the complete turret waiting for the guns to dry firmly. If you look cloasely at those life rafts you might be able to see the teeny, tiny oars glue in there on the PE mesh. When painted the oars will stand out. I'll amputate the plastic barrels when they're nice and solid. 1 down, 2 to go.

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    I was looking at photos of the japanese surrender on the deck of the Missouri and I noticed that there seem to be no railings on top of the B turret. Am I correct?

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    There are turret rails..

    Yes! There were rails on the B turret, but not A apparently. Here's the picture of the ship at about the same time that I modeled.

    I had posted this picture before.

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    I was too far along to make the change and was advised by the gang to leave it alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Builder 2010 View Post
    But to confess, I too spent over $400 on the build. Now I have to figure out what it's worth for insurance and tax donation purposes. Any ideas?
    Suppose I came to you from a museum and asked you to build another one just like it- and offered to pay you to do it? What would you charge? The labor effort was huge, you had to create tools to complete it - I would guess a model like yours would cost thousands if someone commissioned it. Would the cost of the parts be a satisfying compensation if it were destroyed? I saw several months of your time go into it.


    I'd say at least 2,000$ (perhaps 3,000$), it might cost even more by the hour.
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    I calculated it to be around $4,000. That was figuring about 10 bucks an hour. I started to keep an accurate time log, but gave it up. It was 11 months with an average of 4–6 hours a week. Some more, some less. You'd never get $4k for it since it's basically a plastic kit and the purists don't like those things.

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    Name Plate

    Ordered the name plate yesterday and will pick it up tomorrow. It will look something like this:

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    I'm using the double-sided tape method to hold it on the base. I don't want a screwdriver anywhere near the model. A local guy is doing it and it was half the cost of the plate done by "Things Remembered".

    It will be gloss black with etched brass lettering. It should be quite handsome.

    Regarding the competition on Saturday: I would to leave the model in the care of another. While this person is the owner of my local hobby shop and knows lots about models, it would mean that it would be out of my care and that worries me. But I would like to enter it. I am conflicted.

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    I installed the name plate and then did a "practice" packing job to move it to the model competition that I'm not going to. I thought that there'd be enough time on Saturday to do the competition and then go on a motor trip with some friends, but it wasn't to happen. My wife informed that I would have less than 2 hours at the show and that was it. I thought about leaving it the care of someone else, but it would have to be left unwatched for most of the show. This really wasn't acceptable, especially if it was to be out of the case. I'd want to be there the entire time.

    But the foam pads stabilized the ship nicely and would make it an easy thing to hand carry it. It won't make a plane flight to Hawaii, but it would make a 15 minute car ride.

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    Tomorrow I'll unpack all this and return to its place upstairs.

    I'm surprised that the curator of the Frazier Museum of History has not returned my communications, but I don't give up easily.

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    The Frazier Museum did finally reply: They have a 15' WWII ship and don't need any others. So it's Pearl Harbor or bust.

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    Resting Place ?

    Since the boat didn't go to the contest, and I'm not yet sure about the trip to Hawaii, at least it's in a decent temporary resting place. We have a shelf unit in one of the bedrooms where the kids sleep. It's at eye level for them, has nice natural light coming in, but no direct sunlight so it shouldn't effect the polymer rigging (which doesn't like UV). I really like looking at it... so much so, I may not give it away. I took these pictures with the iPhone. It has lots of megapixels, but it's really not very good. My "real" camera was in my daughter's van and I will get it tomorrow.

    To tell you the truth, now that I look at it completed, I really can't imagine how I did it. I set out to make a very detailed iteration of this historic vessel and while I set a high target, I actually think I exceeded it. I re-read the whole thread the other night and it is quite amazing—to me at least—that not only did I finally finish it, but that it came out as good as it did. I'm not fishing for compliments here...you guys have done enough of that already. It's just when you're so close to something like this, you often don't step back a really soak it in. It's probably the only ship model that I've built (and I've built a boatyard load of them) that actually came out as intricately detailed as the box art.

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    The nice neutral background lets you see the rigging. In the other upstairs room, it had a patterned wallpaper that was distracting.

    BTW: To ensure that I have the text of all these posts in this thread, I spent some time copying to a Word document. I edited out all the commentary, and greatly reduced the size of the pictures, and it still comes out to over 280 pages. It's been suggested that I publish an Internet book. If anyone wishes, and if you have access to Dropbox, I could transmit the text to you. It would be easier to use a reference than having to page through this entire thread. You can send me a private note if you're interested.
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    I'm surprised that I haven't seen this build in the Gallery on the ship model forum. Did you submit it? I have seen links to this thread all over the place though. Even the Small Shop has a link here.

    She looks at home in the kids room.
    Its called Tourist Season. So why can't we shoot them?

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    Yes, I believe I did. I will check and if it's missing, I will resubmit it. I also sent pictures to Fine Scale Modeling Mag for their Reader's Gallery. If they print them it will be some $$..whoopee!

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    Here's the link to the Gallery on the Ship Model Forum. I had installed it in the Completed Models Section.

    The Ship Model Forum • View topic - USS Missouri Completed on 4/26/12

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    So after the train project is complete, are you ready for the 1991 version of Missouri.
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    Its called Tourist Season. So why can't we shoot them?

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    Nope! I already built one of those for a friend right after I built Missouri #1. The real ship is great, but as a model, I found it less interesting than it's WWII version. Besides, I have about 10 kits in the basement that need building, plus I'd like to try my hand at the Gallery USS Wasp in 1:350. It comes complete with its own PE. I've got two Trumpeter WWII carriers (Essex and Yorktown) that will require the Missouri treatment. I got a beautiful Trumpeter 1/32 TBF3 Avenger, and on and on. I'm boring you. And the trains... there's years of work waiting there. The best thing I have going for me is being semi-retired. At least I have the time to do some of this stuff.

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    Hi Builder, just wondering if your Eduard PE parts came with the drawings shown on your threads? Or how did you come up with the drawings? It would assit me a lot doing my Tamiya 1/350 New Jersey if I have the PE drawings. Thanks. Arnold from Down under

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