The Battle of the Panzers!

**Ironduke** · 10-24-2007, 17:57 PM

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Dear Members,

It is now time to cast your vote for your what you think is the better model tank. This contest has turned into a Battle of the Panzers, a Panzer IV vs. Panzer V (Panther). In the battle of Panzers and votes, which Panzer will come out on top?

Weighing in at 25 tons, Nord's Panzer IV Version D took part in the Ardennes Campaign in 1940, and though originally designed as an infantry support tank, saw extensive use throughout the war. This tank served as the bread and butter of the German Panzer armies.

Weighing in at 45 tons, Shamus's Panzer V (Panther) was designed to counter the T-34, and saw action on both the Eastern and Western Fronts, and was well-known for rounds simply bouncing off its thick armor.

Cast your vote, and may the best tank win!

Ironduke

RustyBattleship · 10-24-2007, 18:22 PM

Well, Nord's Panzer IV definitely got my vote for the excrutiating fine painting detail right down to leather tie down straps. Must have taken him months just for the painting.

Shamus' Panther is excellent and his selection of camo pattern is terrific -- except for one thing -- he should have gone back over the tools, tow cables, pioneering equipment and other tie down items to make it look like the hull was camo painted and the equipment put back on afterwards.

But then, I wouldn't have probably have the eyes or dexterity left to do that myself.

gunnut · 10-24-2007, 18:39 PM

Nord paid more attention to the details of the physics of the tank.

Shamus's Panther has straight tracks on the top.

Nord's Panzer has tracks that kinda drooped over the wheels and sprockets.

I'm not saying Shamus's Panther is bad. It's 100 times better than mine. It's just Nord beat him out on the details.

Shamus · 10-24-2007, 21:58 PM

HooooWeeeee.....well,I know when to concede a poll before midnight

.To the two people who voted for me....thank you very much,your checks are in the mail

.

Awesome job on your Panzer Nord,I voted for it,your detailing was incredible

.

nizawa · 10-24-2007, 22:33 PM

I vote the Panzer IV, not only for the wonderful model, also for wonderful
skill to make the presentation photos. I am impressed.

tankie · 10-25-2007, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamus

HooooWeeeee.....well,I know when to concede a poll before midnight

.To the two people who voted for me....thank you very much,your checks are in the mail

.

Awesome job on your Panzer Nord,I voted for it,your detailing was incredible

.

5 , of which of course im one , but the nords is a tad better ,but please send check to , RAC benevolent fund Bovington camp uk,, or if you prefer , send it to me and i will make sure it gets spemtid wiserlly , hic

ExNavyAmerican · 10-25-2007, 03:54 AM

Both are detailed, but I agree with the majority. Nord's is more so.

dave lukins · 10-25-2007, 04:27 AM

Nord just pips Shamus to the post on detail..both are very good, well done guys

**Ironduke** · 10-25-2007, 04:31 AM

If these were real Panzers manned by German crews, I think we know what the results would be! Props to Shamus for making the model that would win a real contest.

(Though I'm sure Nord has a Panzer V in his collection somewhere -- I'd really like to see it).

Nord · 10-25-2007, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironduke

(Though I'm sure Nord has a Panzer V in his collection somewhere -- I'd really like to see it).

ok just a a little look then...

Panzerkampfwagen V Panther Ausf.G Sd. Kfz. 171

Shamus, what kind of Panther is yours? G?

Shamus · 10-25-2007, 05:38 AM

Yep,it's a G Nord.That is an awesome Panther Nord,I like how you have shown battle damage and slight rust on the body of the tank,very nice.

Nord · 10-25-2007, 05:43 AM

The gunmantlet looks strange on your Panther... A late edition?

I found the answer..it`s a late model of G´s

Shamus · 10-25-2007, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nord

The gunmantlet looks strange on your Panther... A late edition?

I'm assuming so,how did you do the rust on your Panther,it looks great and what company made your kit?

Nord · 10-25-2007, 05:49 AM

I think it was a Tamayia, but it was almost 10years ago so I don`t really remember...

The rust I made out of....RUST!

I put a piece of metal in water and waited for the rust..then I applied the rusty water, and viola!

Shamus · 10-25-2007, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nord

I think it was a Tamayia, but it was almost 10years ago so I don`t really remember...

The rust I made out of....RUST!

I put a piece of metal in water and waited for the rust..then I applied the rusty water, and viola!

Can't beat that for realism

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View Poll Results: Battle of the Panzers
Nord's Panzer IV	73	83.91%
Shamus's Panzer V (Panther)	14	16.09%
Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll

10-24-2007, 18:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
RustyBattleship *Defense Professional* Join Date: 01-12-06 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 2,453	Well, Nord's Panzer IV definitely got my vote for the excrutiating fine painting detail right down to leather tie down straps. Must have taken him months just for the painting. Shamus' Panther is excellent and his selection of camo pattern is terrific -- except for one thing -- he should have gone back over the tools, tow cables, pioneering equipment and other tie down items to make it look like the hull was camo painted and the equipment put back on afterwards. But then, I wouldn't have probably have the eyes or dexterity left to do that myself. __________________ Able to leap tall tales in a single groan.

10-24-2007, 18:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
gunnut *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 01-27-06 Location: DPRK, Democratik People's Republik of Kalifornia Posts: 8,594 Country:	Nord paid more attention to the details of the physics of the tank. Shamus's Panther has straight tracks on the top. Nord's Panzer has tracks that kinda drooped over the wheels and sprockets. I'm not saying Shamus's Panther is bad. It's 100 times better than mine. It's just Nord beat him out on the details. __________________ "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

10-24-2007, 21:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
Shamus WAB Court Jester *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 04-12-07 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,065 Country:	HooooWeeeee.....well,I know when to concede a poll before midnight .To the two people who voted for me....thank you very much,your checks are in the mail . Awesome job on your Panzer Nord,I voted for it,your detailing was incredible . __________________ A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.

10-25-2007, 03:54 AM	#7 (permalink)
ExNavyAmerican *Military Professional* Join Date: 03-02-07 Location: Ningbo, China Posts: 827 Country:	Both are detailed, but I agree with the majority. Nord's is more so. __________________ "I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever." - Thomas Jefferson

10-24-2007, 22:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
nizawa Regular Join Date: 12-23-06 Posts: 32	I vote the Panzer IV, not only for the wonderful model, also for wonderful skill to make the presentation photos. I am impressed.

10-25-2007, 04:27 AM	#8 (permalink)
dave lukins *Military Professional* Join Date: 01-04-07 Location: cheshire uk Posts: 4,029 Country:	Nord just pips Shamus to the post on detail..both are very good, well done guys

10-25-2007, 04:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
Ironduke Burgomaster Join Date: 08-02-03 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 6,663 Country:	If these were real Panzers manned by German crews, I think we know what the results would be! Props to Shamus for making the model that would win a real contest. (Though I'm sure Nord has a Panzer V in his collection somewhere -- I'd really like to see it).

10-25-2007, 05:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
Shamus WAB Court Jester *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 04-12-07 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,065 Country:	Yep,it's a G Nord.That is an awesome Panther Nord,I like how you have shown battle damage and slight rust on the body of the tank,very nice.

10-25-2007, 05:43 AM	#12 (permalink)
Nord Regular Join Date: 02-14-06 Location: Sweden Posts: 105 Country:	The gunmantlet looks strange on your Panther... A late edition? I found the answer..it`s a late model of G´s Last edited by Nord : 10-25-2007 at 05:45 AM.

10-25-2007, 05:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
Nord Regular Join Date: 02-14-06 Location: Sweden Posts: 105 Country:	I think it was a Tamayia, but it was almost 10years ago so I don`t really remember... The rust I made out of....RUST! I put a piece of metal in water and waited for the rust..then I applied the rusty water, and viola!

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