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    UK to supply Saudi Arabia with Typhoon jets

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    UK to supply Saudi Arabia with Typhoon jets


    RIYADH (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia and Britain signed on Wednesday an understanding for Saudi Tornado and other combat jets to be replaced by Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft, the British embassy in Riyadh said.

    It gave no details on the size of the deal and set no timeframe for the delivery of the new jets.

    "Under the terms of the signed document Typhoon aircraft will replace Tornado Air Defence Variant aircraft and others currently in service ...," it said.

    The accord was announced after visiting defence minister John Reid on Wednesday met King Abdullah and after talks late on Tuesday with Defence Minister and Crown Prince Sultan bin Abdul-Aziz..

    "(The accord) is intended to establish a greater partnership in modernising the Saudi Arabian Armed Forces (RSAF) and developing close service-to-service contact especially through joint training and exercises," the embassy said in a statement.

    Sources close to the talks have said a deal is likely to involve Saudi Arabia buying at least 48 Eurofighter Typhoon jets, with an option to raise that to 72.

    "The specific details of these arrangements are governed by the existing confidentiality agreement," the embassy said.

    London will also support Riyadh in developing what the statement called "a regional defence industrial centre of excellence". Prime contractor BAE Systems will invest in local training for thousands of Saudi nationals, it added.
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    Will the Typhoons replace some of their F-15s too?

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    http://flightinternational.com/Artic...hoon+deal.html

    Saudi Arabia commits to Eurofighter Typhoon deal

    Saudi Arabia has signed an expanded military agreement with the UK government under which the kingdom intends to acquire at least 24 Eurofighter Typhoons to replace its current air force fleet of Panavia Tornado air defence variant (ADV) fighters.

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    Contained within a so-called “understanding document”, the multi-billion pound Typhoon buy would form the cornerstone of a third phase to the bilateral Al Yamamah arms agreement, which has already covered the delivery and support of 120 Tornado ADV and interdictor strike (IDS) aircraft, BAE Systems Hawk and Pilatus PC-9 trainers and other equipment.

    Announcing the agreement on 21 December, the UK Ministry of Defence said: “Under the terms of the signed document Typhoon aircraft will replace Tornado ADV aircraft and others currently in service with the RSAF [Royal Saudi Air Force]”. The MoD says this will cover the delivery of 24 aircraft to be drawn from the UK Royal Air Force’s production run of 89 Tranche 2 Eurofighters, a £4.3 billion ($7.5 billion) contract for which was signed in December 2004. However, the MoD stresses that the RAF will receive additional Tranche 2 airframes to offset this transfer, and that the Saudi Arabian deal will have no impact on its commitment to sign a Tranche 3 deal to take the UK’s total Typhoon purchase to 232 aircraft.

    Further information on an expanded Typhoon purchase by Riyadh to potentially also replace some of its air force Northrop F-5 fighters has not been disclosed. “The details of these arrangements are confidential between the two governments”, the MoD says. While a timescale for deliveries has not been publicly disclosed, Tranche 2 deliveries are scheduled to run from between late 2007 and mid-2012 for Eurofighter partner nations Germany, Italy, Spain and the UK, plus launch export customer Austria, which will acquire 18 aircraft.

    The new agreement also seeks to further develop Saudi Arabia’s national aerospace industry through the transfer of technology from prime contractor BAE and the establishment of in-country support facilities. The pact also includes a framework for “developing closer service-to-service contacts, especially through joint training and exercises” between the Saudi and UK armed forces, the MoD says.

    BAE on 21 December notified the London Stock Exchange of the terms of the understanding document with Saudi Arabia, but declines to comment further on the possible future business. The company is, meanwhile, also in the process of promoting an extensive upgrade to Saudi Arabia’s current fleet of Tornado IDS aircraft in a step to further boost the value of its Al Yamamah business activities, which are managed through its Customer Solutions and Support business unit
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    But why is this a contract between saudis & english? EADS should have been the supplying party, isnt it?

    The contract is rated to be 18 Billion US$.
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    They're transferring existing RAF orders to Saudi.
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    Basically what's happening is the UK is selling "surplus" jets jets to Saudi. RAF will take ownership and then transfer the jets to the RSAF. Knowing the tactics of the bean counters of her majesty's government, this is probably a inventive way of enacting another defense cut.
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    This deal is about as immoral as it gets.
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    ah, dont worry about that. I still remember the words one BAe engineer told me when I travelled with him to Dubai. English are making a quick buck and I dont see anything wrong in that.
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    When british does anything, its always right . Incld coup in african countries .
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenRoethig
    Basically what's happening is the UK is selling "surplus" jets jets to Saudi. RAF will take ownership and then transfer the jets to the RSAF. Knowing the tactics of the bean counters of her majesty's government, this is probably a inventive way of enacting another defense cut.
    What does it mean by "surplus jets"? A fighter which hasnt been in service for long time & is just ASF, isnt fully multi role one[will be by 2013], becomes surplus?
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    Quote Originally Posted by indianguy4u
    When british does anything, its always right . Incld coup in african countries .
    Most of the times they do it right...cant complaint, can you??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay
    Most of the times they do it right...cant complaint, can you??
    What about son of thatcher, was caught & then released after british intervention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay
    Most of the times they do it right...cant complaint, can you??
    What History books have you been reading? Most of the world's problems can be linked back to european colonialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indianguy4u
    What does it mean by "surplus jets"? A fighter which hasnt been in service for long time & is just ASF, isnt fully multi role one[will be by 2013], becomes surplus?
    More like one where Brown and his penny pinchers decides they can't really afford those jets with all the social programs and seeks out a way to keep their production lines going. Officially they get to keep their commitment to the program without buying the jets. Don't be surprised if Germany tries something similar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenRoethig
    More like one where Brown and his penny pinchers decides they can't really afford those jets with all the social programs and seeks out a way to keep their production lines going. Officially they get to keep their commitment to the program without buying the jets. Don't be surprised if Germany tries something similar
    They want to offload their premier fighter to save few euros, it is ludicrious!

    If germans will do similar thing than, another oil rich gulf country will be toying with EF2000.
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