Insomniac

Okay guys I'm basing this off information of what the military aviation will be like in 2015. Assuming the technology that the US, Russia, China, and EU are testing becomes standard production use.

Russia: The Russians are currently experimenting with plasma stealth and claim that it makes their jets just as or more stealthy as an F/A-22A Raptor. All the Russian fighter jets radar signatures will be drastically reduced to almost nothing.

Russian weapons include the R-77, AA-11, and AA-12. All these are counterparts that are equal to the American AIM-120C and AIM-9X missiles.

Also experimenting with the Su-47A Berkut air-superiority fighter.

Lastly experimenting with helmet mounted sights.

United States: Currently experimenting with technology similiar to plasma stealth, probably working around 2015. All the American fighter jet radar signatures will be reduced to nothing as well.

Also experimenting with the new AIM-120D AMRAAM missile that is supposed to have a 50% increase in range (approx. 37-38 miles) and smaller escape envolope.

Also experimentiing with AESA Radar for the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and a slightly weaker version for the F/A-22A Raptor.

Lastly experimenting with the new Joint Strike Fighter and Joint helmet mounted cueing system.

European Union: Currently helping US with JSF.

Has Meteor missile with a range of 70-50 miles and very small escape envolope, probably upgrading it.

China: Currently buying all weapons from Russia.

Made J-10 Aircraft with perfomance level similiar to F-16C.

leib10

R-77 and AA-12 are the same thing.

And I think we have about 20 of these threads saying the more or less the same thing.

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JG73

Please....not another one. Moreover it is a stupid question.

canoe

I second this, this thread has already been created many times. I think everyones opinions have been made.

The_Burning_Kid

Do I qualify as someone that knows something, in your opinion?

Insomniac

I just don't want any people that have no idea what "AMRAAM" stands for or, in general, don't know a thing about fighter jets getting on here and voting something random. I don't mean for the title to be offensive. It's only supposed to attract attention and well... it sure did the job.

I wanted to know if you guys still think the F/A-22A Raptor reigns supreme with all this new technology coming out. That's all.

Insomniac

In my opinion, yes you do.

The_Burning_Kid

I will have to say F-22. It outdoes its competitories with the combination of stealth, manuverability, avionics, design, and all-around performance to dominate the sky. Also it has a record against F-15s and F-16s.

That should speak for itself.

ajaybhutani

You forgot to include
1. PAK-Fa.
2. R77 M
3 KH172. (ultra long range missile ?)
4. Brahmos A2G . missile.

The_Burning_Kid

For one thing, we can't compare PAK-FA for it isn't even real. There are no specs, drawings, or anything on it. So that would be a waste of time to put in there, if you ask me.

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ajaybhutani

tobe frank whole of this thread is a pretty good waste of time.. are u sure u know all about any one of the aircrafts you have put in the list..
As far as PAK-FA is concerned the Mig1.44 and SU47( the ones u have mentioned here) were the tech demonstrators. And work on PAK-Fa is on. Neways how much is known about the J10 which is even in production. ??

The_Burning_Kid

But we don't know what tech it will imploy, what it will look like, etc.....

canoe

I think the point hes getting at is theres solid information about the other aircraft. We know the basic specs, we know what they look like and they arn't bull#$4 paper dreams because they have been built, flown and exist. And some people in the forum may have even had personal experience working with them.

As a general rule of thumb I usually won't even seriously talk about aircraft that arn't in service with anyone and won't be in service in the next 5-10 years. Everyone always has they're upcoming prototypes, but I never consider those to be actual combat aircraft until their on the production line. The reality is most prototypes and test beds never make it to the production stage.

Although I do agree this particular thread is a waste of time, its still possible to discuss real world aircraft in the forum.

tphuang

J-10 is in service already. Mig 1.44 never had more than a prototype. PAK FA is still just getting into the wind tunnel stage.

As for the original posters, I have to beg your pardon here. China's future planes are all going to be Indigenous planes. J-11B is fully indigenous and I don't need to say anything about J-10.

Anyhow, as for the best plane. F-22, why are we still having conversations on this? It's like comparing a thoroughbred to a your average horse.