Best Strike Aircraft - Page 2

JBodnar39 · 10-09-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sanctified

Why wasn't the Su-25T(Su-39) Frogfoot included?
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/su-25.htm

Dedicated strike aircraft; lets try another list that is a bit more inclusive. We'll leave out aircraft like the A-10 and Su-25 because they are tasked for CAS not strike:

F-111
Tornado GR4
F-15E
Jaguar
Mirage 2000D
F-117
A-7
MiG-27
Su-24M

B.Smitty · 10-10-2005, 07:59 AM

1. F-117 - cuz it does things none of the others can.
2. F-15E - advanced avionics gives it the edge.
3.(tied) Tornado GR4/F-111 - F-111 for speed, range and payload. GR4 for advanced avionics and modern weapons.
4. Mirage 2000D - cuz it can't carry as much as far as the others.
5. Su-24M - not real partial to anything Russian-made, but it has range.
6.(tied) A-7/Jaguar - Cuz they're better than the Mig-27
7. Mig-27 - Not so good.

The_Burning_Kid · 10-10-2005, 16:15 PM

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Originally Posted by raptor1992

we don't quite know the specs or actual capabilities of the JSF.

Point taken.

raptor1992 · 10-11-2005, 01:32 AM

to tell you my opinion i think none of the aricraft on the list is very good. i think the best if the F-15E

Raven · 10-11-2005, 23:29 PM

I mean not saying by any means it is the best aircraft on that list, or other strike fighters posted by you guys, but just due to the fact that the A-10 is the beast that it is, I have to go with it. For one simple reason, it is a GS plane, I mean from the 30 mm, and the fact that it can take more damage then any other aircraft on that list, I would have to go with the A-10.

Although if we are going with true strike/attack aircraft, I would have to say it's a toss up between the F-15E and the Tornado GR4.

Franco Lolan · 10-12-2005, 00:11 AM

You guys belittle the Jaguar; however, the Indian jaguars have penetrated our F-15C CAPs at Cope Thunder every time, this last encounter.

B.Smitty · 10-12-2005, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Lolan

You guys belittle the Jaguar; however, the Indian jaguars have penetrated our F-15C CAPs at Cope Thunder every time, this last encounter.

Yes, and they were escorted by Su-27s that outnumbered the defending F-15s, and the F-15s didn't have AWACS support.

A Mig-15 probably could've done the same, in those circumstances.

indianguy4u · 10-12-2005, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by B.Smitty

Yes, and they were escorted by Su-27s that outnumbered the defending F-15s, and the F-15s didn't have AWACS support.

A Mig-15 probably could've done the same, in those circumstances.

So it means USAF is not even a half of its strenght without AWACS. What signal will it send to PLAAF, take out the AWACS & then USAF will fall like a pack of cards [taiwan senario]. Grow up. Did IAF fighters had AWACS support, if not then its fair fight.

Injecteer · 10-12-2005, 09:39 AM

B.Smitty
>>7. Mig-27 - Not so good.

the most explanatory answer I've ever seen!

s_qwert63 · 10-12-2005, 10:18 AM

Whatever happened to the Su25?

**TopHatter** · 10-12-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by s_qwert63

Whatever happened to the Su25?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBodnar39

We'll leave out aircraft like the A-10 and Su-25 because they are tasked for CAS not strike

The discussion is for aircraft that typically go beyond the FEBA, and are not heavy bomber aircraft. This would exclude A-10, Su-25, B-2, etc.

BenRoethig · 10-12-2005, 13:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JG73

B-1, B-2, B-52 are long range high altitude Bombers.

B-52 is a high altitude bomber. The B-1 is designed for low altitude penetration.

My votes go to the F-15E and the SU-34.

B.Smitty · 10-12-2005, 18:45 PM

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Originally Posted by indianguy4u

So it means USAF is not even a half of its strenght without AWACS.

Yes.

They don't call them 'force multipliers' for nothing.

indianguy4u · 10-13-2005, 00:32 AM

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Originally Posted by B.Smitty

Yes.

They don't call them 'force multipliers' for nothing.

Do u what every one to believe that f16s, f15s, f18s are inferior in every respect to jags & sukhois. That they cannot take one other AF without AWACS. [not incld f22 & f35]

B.Smitty · 10-13-2005, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indianguy4u

Do u what every one to believe that f16s, f15s, f18s are inferior in every respect to jags & sukhois. That they cannot take one other AF without AWACS. [not incld f22 & f35]

No, the F-teens are definitely better, just not enough to consistently take on larger numbers of Jags and Sukhois without AWACS support.

View Poll Results: Which is the best dedicated strike/ground attack aircrafT?
A-10 Warthog	61	48.80%
MiG-27	25	20.00%
SEPECAT Jaguar	8	6.40%
Mirage V	4	3.20%
Tornado Gr.4	27	21.60%
Voters: 125. You may not vote on this poll

10-11-2005, 23:29 PM	#20 (permalink)
Raven New Member Join Date: 10-11-05 Location: Elmendorf, Alaska Posts: 13	hey, just the view of an USAF man I mean not saying by any means it is the best aircraft on that list, or other strike fighters posted by you guys, but just due to the fact that the A-10 is the beast that it is, I have to go with it. For one simple reason, it is a GS plane, I mean from the 30 mm, and the fact that it can take more damage then any other aircraft on that list, I would have to go with the A-10. Although if we are going with true strike/attack aircraft, I would have to say it's a toss up between the F-15E and the Tornado GR4.

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B.Smitty Contributor Join Date: 08-15-05 Location: Oak Hill, VA Posts: 549	1. F-117 - cuz it does things none of the others can. 2. F-15E - advanced avionics gives it the edge. 3.(tied) Tornado GR4/F-111 - F-111 for speed, range and payload. GR4 for advanced avionics and modern weapons. 4. Mirage 2000D - cuz it can't carry as much as far as the others. 5. Su-24M - not real partial to anything Russian-made, but it has range. 6.(tied) A-7/Jaguar - Cuz they're better than the Mig-27 7. Mig-27 - Not so good.

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raptor1992 Banished Join Date: 06-21-05 Location: Curious about it aren't you? Sadly I won't be telling you. Look around the world!!! Posts: 205	to tell you my opinion i think none of the aricraft on the list is very good. i think the best if the F-15E

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Franco Lolan *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 09-29-04 Posts: 789	You guys belittle the Jaguar; however, the Indian jaguars have penetrated our F-15C CAPs at Cope Thunder every time, this last encounter.

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Injecteer Patron Join Date: 10-01-04 Posts: 190	B.Smitty >>7. Mig-27 - Not so good. the most explanatory answer I've ever seen!

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