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Thread: F-14 vs. F/A-18E/F

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer
    I wonder what will happen when each side has stealth fighters, how the heck will they be detected and countered?
    I don't think it's to much of a stretch to say:
    The side with the better sensor equipment in their aircraft and missiles/is more stealthy sees the other bird first and nails it. Of course, you just know the next move is to integrate a DEW active defense system, and at that point, I don't know. Shoot the other guy with a LOS weapon/build missiles that can take it long enough after detection to hit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by highsea View Post
    Well, Prowlers from NAS Whidbey were part of the recent Alaska excercises, so they have practiced in an ECM/EW environment. To what extent, we don't know. The Raptor is a capable ELINT platform in it's own right, so certainly he knows where the Prowler/Growler is.

    EW platforms are not operating out in front, so whether or not the Raptor is within range to engage them depends on the situation. But I would give the advantage to the Raptor, since he can see the Prowler/Growler, and they can't see him. He should have no problem maneuvering for an AIM-9 shot if he so chooses. Or he can just go around the threat, it depends on what his objective is.

    I don't see the jamming AC putting the APG-77 out of business, but it could cause problems for the AIM-120. I really don't know how effective the HOJ modes are.

    It also seems a little silly talking about Raptors going up against Growlers and Super Hornets, since it will never really happen. Those Prowlers/Growlers are there to jam communications and search radars in support of the strike mission- they are not up there to engage opposing AC, and they are held well back from the battlespace. If they are threatened, they go the other way.
    Cheers for that, just cleared up a few queries i had

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer View Post
    The more one reads about the Raptor...brrr.....is there anything that can take down that bird?

    I wonder what will happen when each side has stealth fighters, how the heck will they be detected and countered?
    I guess really good IRST will become extremely important at that point.

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    I thought infra-red (and therefore, by extension, IRST) is blocked by clouds?

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    Not completely blocked, but the detection capabilities are seriously degraded.
    "The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world. So wake up, Mr. Freeman. Wake up and smell the ashes." G-Man

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    The F-22 typically operates WAY above the clouds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leibstandarte10 View Post
    Not completely blocked, but the detection capabilities are seriously degraded.
    This is what I meant... enough cloud will render something hiding in it invisible to IRST from sufficient distance.

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    marginally!!!but yet is much more cheap to mantain newer etc.but it never be like the tomcat

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopHatter View Post
    Look, all I can say is, the Hornet is not exactly a Brewster Buffalo. It is a capable modern strike fighter.

    And eh, who is TT?
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