Thread: Indian Air Force vs. US Air Force

Kinda hard to inflict casualties when you're bingo fuel and the USAF always got fresh birds in the air.

so the mir 2000 is only better than F-16A. ohhhhhhhhh that explains everything

Depends on which F-16A and which Mirage 2000E.

RTAF F-16A/B-ADFs use the AIM-120 as do ROCAF F-16A/B B-20s, Dutch/Belgian/Danish/Nowergian/Portugese F-16A/B-MLUs. Those are different then say Pakistan's F-16A/B B-15s which only have the AIM-9P-4/L and R-550 Mk.2.

And then there are strike weapons and MLU-4s use the JDAM.

So it all depends.

so i guess USAF would win but with high casaulties because IAF Su-30MKI are very powerful.

No offense but you might just want to ask questions....

Originally Posted by M21Sniper

The USAF also has 1,700+ F-16Cs.

So they're not just better, but there're a lot more of them.

I wouldn't rely on that figure. Due to the constant stresses put on by many flying hours in OIF, no fly zone patrols, Aghanistan, the spare parts has kinda run low and they have run to the point where they had to cannibalize some F-16s to keep other F-16s. So I would say 1,200 F16s are flyable. Still that is more than the entire IAF.

well before we look at the loses we must look at how many planes each side can put up in the air. because if american F-15 outnumbered Su-30MKI 10:1 then F-15 definitely wins. but our ass would still be kicked because IAF is receiveing more Su-30MKIs although they maybe destroyed faster then they can be built.

This is the total number of F-16s by block being retired/sent to storage due to BRAC(these planes have not yet been transferred from their current active status so far as i know)
Retired - Reserve

Block 15ADF 15
Block 25 85
Block 30 30 6
Block 32 9
Block 40 11
Block 42 39
Block 50 18
Block 52 4
Total 178 39

http://www.f-16.net/f-16_news_article1369.html

That still leaves the F-16 figure at 1500+, with hundreds more F-15Cs and F-15Es, with about 60 or so F-117s for the USAF/USANG/USAFR alone.

Add in the USN/USMC and it's about another 1,000 F-18s of all makes, a couple hundred AV-8B II+, and a couple sqns of F-14Ds.

I reckon that's just way more combat power than the Indian Airforce could ever realistically deal with, SU-30MkIs or no.

Add to that the 250 or so ADF's in storage, and the 55 F/A-22's already built, with new ones coming off the line at 2 per month, soon to be 3 per month...

Of course, the B-2's and F-117's would take out India's airbases in the first 48 hours or so, and all those shiny SU-30's would be sitting ducks anyway.




Theoretically, of course...

Oh i think if ODS was proof of anything it's that we're nowhere near good enough at shutting airbases down, then keeping them closed.

The Indian AF has a whole spitload of airfields(let alone highways), and over 1000 combat aircraft.

IMO it would be a pretty good fight for about a week to 10 days, followed by a rapid drop-off of IAF combat capability.

Originally Posted by M21Sniper

Oh i think if ODS was proof of anything it's that we're nowhere near good enough at shutting airbases down, then keeping them closed.

The Indian AF has a whole spitload of airfields(let alone highways), and over 1000 combat aircraft.

IMO it would be a pretty good fight for about a week to 10 days, followed by a rapid drop-off of IAF combat capability.

More than 1000 AC in IAF is being too optimistic. The real figure might be around 800 out of which around 300 are MIG 21 upgarded.

MIRAGE 2000 H/TH - 49
MIG 21 Bison - 72
MIG 21 BIS - 97
MIG 21 M - 72
MIG 21 FL - 90
MIG 23 BN - 54
MIG 23 R - 18
MIG 27 ML - 117
MIG 29 - 54
JAGUAR - 140
SU -30MKI - 50


IL- 76 - 28
IL - 78(air refullers) - 2 ( More 6)
AN 32- 80
HS 788M - 32
DO - 41

As an indian myself,i cant even concieve a situation where india can hold onto an US air assault for more than 2 days.

Originally Posted by bull

As an indian myself,i cant even concieve a situation where india can hold onto an US air assault for more than 2 days.

Point defence.

Add to that the 250 or so ADF's in storage, and the 55 F/A-22's already built, with new ones coming off the line at 2 per month, soon to be 3 per month...

F/A-22 would definitely whoop their butt but it's a 5th generation fighter and this is only about 4-4.5 generation fighter.

and sometimes when a MiG-29 was shot down it may just because the pilot had poor training and can't fly fighters as well as USAF pilots.

"SU -30MKI - 50 "

The MkI is the only SU-27 variant in IAF service?

no. they also have Su-30MK and Su-27SK i think and Mir-2000 and MiG-29.

they have ancient MiG-23s as well and some older jet. look like only Su-27 variants and MiG-29s are useful for IAF.