Thats crap. The Typhoon only has a 5:1 kill ratio against a Su-35 and the Raptor had 10:1. Considering the Typhoon to be 5 gen and it has a 5:1 kill ratio against teh Su-35 which is supererior to the Su-27. Hmmm. Somthing is wrong. BTW 5:0 is like not a kill ratio since the J-10 didn't loose. You made that up.forum. Anyone who has followed J-10 would realize that J-10 is a far superior platform than su-27. In air to air combat between J-10 and su-27 and su-30mkk squadrons in China, J-10 totally owned su-27 and su-30mkk in all air to air combat. Between J-10 and su-27, I think the kill score was 5:0.
No thats because PLAAF are pushing for more Russian stuff. Ever heard of bargaining?That's because the planes that the Russians were offering are inferior to J-10.
You be rational. Don't you know how India buys Indian stuff? In batches. The 20 ordered will be for operational and tactical development with an American engine. Considering the requirements for the IAF they are gonna need a lot more than 124+190!As for JF-17, I'm not sure what it's real ability is, since it hasn't shown itself in any kind of military exercise or combat. I personally think plaaf doesn't need it and should get as many j-10s as it can get. Same with LCA, the project is labled by the Indian media as a waste of money. It still only has 4 prototypes and isn't going anywhere. IAF is placing a mamoth 20 plane order for it. And is choosing amongst foreign fighter jets again for that order of 126. Does that look like IAF has any kind of confidence in LCA? Be rational. Compare what China is doing with J-10 to what IAF is doing with LCA. Ask yourself how successful LCA really is?
Thats you cause your an idoit. The Bison is superior to the J-8 and J-7. It has better EW system and are R-77 capable. What can the J-8 do?In combat, J-8 and J-7 will most likely be going against Mig-21 bisons and Mig-23s. I personally think J-8 dominates Mig-23s and bisons, but that's just me, because I read a lot about the upgrades done to J-8, but not much about the IAF low level planes.
We know nothing of the J-10 besides you making crap up. Were is your source? Do we have to believe you?As for su-30mkk/mkk2 vs su-30mki, it depends on the time. As of now, China has 100 mkk/mkk2 vs 40 mki in IAF (also, not all the mki are upgraded to the final stage), so I think mkks can take the mkis on. In the future, it will definitely be J-10 vs mki
Your right about the MKI not being in the final upgrade. The current version is supperior to the MKK2 the later versions will have AESA!
Ha. That is some serious dumbness. J-10 has not internal weapons bay and is a single engined figher. 2 engines would require a completely new jet. Hence this is the reason China is developing the J-12. BTW the J-10 hasn't shown it's self. If J-10 is such a success why is China developing the Mighty Thundar?by the time you guys have a fleet of mkis and mig35s, J-10 will also be upgraded to the twin-engine version with dsi and better radar than it has now. I personally think it will be better than su-30mki and mig35s, just because J-10 already has shown itself against the 4th generation Russian planes. The twin engine J-10 is supposed to be similar in performance to Mig1.44.
Like everyone pointed out the IAF missile inventory is superior to the PLAAF.
Do you know that Chinese sources are the same ones making all those CG fantasy images and PSing the pictures to make it look cooler. Are you one of them?ou should notice in the recent China-Russia military exercise, China intentionally hid its most advanced weapons like 052C, 054, yuan sub and J-10 and missiles like SD-10 and YJ-85.
How? Can it carry more missiles? Does it have the range of the agility? I doubt it.I have a feeling it's going to be 200 su-27/J-11 (btw, J-11 is about 30-40% better than su-27sk according to most Chinese sources) against mirage2000/su-27 of IAF
Yea the Su-35. But even thats not on PAR with the MKI.. The way this is going, Russia will crack soon and actually offer something to China equal to the mkis.
Not true. THe ones in service are not complete. Fully complete J-10 will have IRST inflight refueling.As for J-10 vs LCA, does it matter whether or not J-10 got some head start with Lavi? every plane gets some head start from other projects. The most important part is that J-10 is done and LCA is not.
Yes.Do you want to go through the attackers and bombers?
Considering that the FC-1's avonics are not enough for the PAF which are actually using a forign radar. Why is the FC-1 can't share it's avonics from the J-10?