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    "why do ppl want b-52's? theyre archaic."

    Because they still do the job as well as anything around.

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    a new british expeditionary air force

    my wish list assumes that there won't be enough money in the pot to build 4 large (80,000 ton) aircraft carriers.

    20 B2
    140 F-22
    160 F-15E
    160 Harrier (AMRAAM compatable) GR9 for RN and JHF
    60 AH-64

    40 Global Hawk
    20 E3 AWACS
    20 Nimrod

    60 C-130J
    40 AN-124
    80 Tankers
    80 Chinook
    120 Merlin

    the main emphasis being on strike/ground attack, strategic reconaisance and airlift capability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco Lolan
    why is C5 not being produced any longer?
    Volga-Dnepr, a company, which was carrying US troops to Iraq on An-124, told me that C-5 Galaxy is too costly in operation and very inefficient as a transport aircraft despite its size..... that is why US Army hired Russian and Ukrainian airlines to transport their troops with Russian/Ukrainian An-124......

    ecomomics matter in recent times.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by troung
    No one cares that I am here............


    Cry
    Chao anh troung. When I was in Vietnamese school, my name was Nghia.
    Last edited by Bluesman; 12th December 2004 at 05:49.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cjwinnit
    Touché, but you are 34 over

    They are attrition replacements..

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    My dream air force is:

    Primary Strike Aircrafts

    250 F-35
    250 Pak-fa
    250 Su-30Mki

    Secondary

    100 Mirage-2000\05
    100 F-16 Block-50
    100 Mig-29
    200 Lca

    40 Tu-160
    150 MCA

    100 Mi-35
    100 LCH
    100 Ka-50\52
    25 Lah

    30 Mi-26
    125 Mi-17
    50 ALH
    40 Chinook
    60 other transport helicopters ( if any one want to suggest)

    7 Falcon + 15 (Indian built Awacs after 7 years)
    30 Il-78 refuelers

    20 Mig-25
    25 P-3c Orion
    30 Tu-22 Backfire

    100 Predator
    100 Global Hawk
    100 Heron
    100 Nishant\Lakshya



    So my air force would be World's best Air Force.( My Air Force would be in accordance with IAF.)

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    hello im new to this and it seems 2 yrs late. anyway so. . .


    1500 FA22
    750 F35
    250 f117
    250 B2
    250 b1
    750 FA18ef
    750 f35c
    1000 f14d
    400 kc135
    50 e767
    25 e3
    500 rah66
    75 pavelow
    25 e2

    who needs f15, fi6, f4

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    Hm, since I'm new, too: lets resurrect this thread.
    I try to stick to the original 1000 airframes limit.
    180 F-23
    180 X-47C Pegasus UCAV
    180 Mirage-2000-9
    60 A-330 MRTT
    60 A-400M
    20 C-17
    5 Wedgetail
    15 P-8A
    60 Mi-28N
    180 EH-101

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    Only planes?
    No Pilot,bases,money,fuel,technicians,commanders etc

    Oh may be all are UAC and UCAV's

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    hmm lets see

    200 f22-raptors
    200 su30MKI
    200 mig-29
    100 b52
    100 assorted planes for diff things like recce,awacs,anti-sub etc
    100 bombers like tu-22 backfire,tu-160,b2 etc
    50 f-177a
    45 jaguars
    5- star trek cruisers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurel
    Hm, since I'm new, too: lets resurrect this thread.
    I try to stick to the original 1000 airframes limit.
    180 F-23
    180 X-47C Pegasus UCAV
    180 Mirage-2000-9
    60 A-330 MRTT
    60 A-400M
    20 C-17
    5 Wedgetail
    15 P-8A
    60 Mi-28N
    180 EH-101
    Hello Aurel,

    As one of the previous replies says you really cant have only a puny 1000 aircraft.
    That wouldn't do much really.



    To prove my point here is what Captain C said

    "If all you get is 1000 aircraft you are a third rate airforce IMHO. To be truly world dominating and entirely capable of devastation on a massive basis I would like the following:
    Airforce:

    200 B-2 Bombers for strategic attacks
    1500 B-52 bombers for carpet bombing cities and some strategic attacks.

    3000 F/A-22A's These will provide for air superiority, escort duty for the big boys and ground forces support, as in strikes. You will update these craft with USN type electronics so each aircraft is capable of 'Wild Weasel" duties.

    700 hundred tankers to refuel all those birds.

    3000 A-10 Warthogs Anti Armor/Ground support

    You may think that is a lot of aircraft but you also have to think of wear and tear for a full war and the losses incurred due to parts failure and enemy fire. Also, the F/A-22 will be performing duties of the F-117A, F-15, F-15E, F-16 (All versions and mission variations) and we have a large number of those aircraft types. Why use second class aircraft when you can choose the best. To carpet/fire bomb a city effectively, you need large numbers of aircraft, those aircraft need escorts.

    Navy

    1200 F-14D/F-21 (New build only!)

    These aircraft will perform all Ground Attack/Strike duties performed by the A-6 and all F-18 variations. They will also be used for long range CAP/Interdiction duties. The number may seem high, but again you need spares for wear and tear for a full war and the losses incurred due to parts failure and enemy fire. These aircraft can be supplemented with F-18E/F once they are up to speed with new (much) higher powered engines. Until then no SH!!!!!!

    You might also want to make an F-14 tanker version to keep your parts commonality as large as possible. With the Tanker version you add another 150 aircraft on top of what is listed.

    Bottom Line

    With this combination Airforce/Naval Air combat force you could pretty much take on the world and devastate it in a couple of years. I don't mean knock out things, I mean WWII levels of Devastation as in Japanese cities that were firebombed and leveled. You would of course need a ground force of equally large proportions (25-30 Divisions) to conquer those who don't surrender outright during the early bombing phase....... I am of course talking about taking on the EU, Russians and Red Chinese at the same time, along with kicking a little Arab booty while we are at it.......

    :S :ph34r

    So do you think I have enough to win WWIII?
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    By the way, what's a Wedgetail?

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    My dream AF will be

    SU-30 MKI - 350,
    SU-35/37(THE MULTI ROLE ONE ) -180,
    LCA-TEJAS - 600,
    APACHE HELO - 120,
    IL 76 - 80,
    MI 26 - 50,
    ALH(DHRUV) - 150,
    PAKFA - 150,
    Mig 33 - 80.
    PHALCON - 10,
    IJT/AJT - 150,
    MCA - 100.

    This is what i want IAF to have . I will like to decommisioned all the migs 21,23,27 as well as jaguars & mig 29s. In place of it LCA & su 35/37 ACs
    Last edited by indianguy4u; 2nd June 2005 at 07:24.
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    Hi Indianguy4u.
    Are you new too?
    If you are, well I'm also from India, from Delhi.
    And according to you the IAF should have such a little amount of aircraft.
    If they were to have so little aircraft what would happen?

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    helloooooooooooo to hello . Kya kar raha hai yaar. Also do log on to Asian disc forum .U will enjoy the debate over there.
    Hala Madrid!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hello
    And according to you the IAF should have such a little amount of aircraft.
    If they were to have so little aircraft what would happen?
    Do the maths yaar . how much is 350+600+180.
    I think 1130 AC is good enough no.s . Whats use of more than that ?
    With these no.s IAF can easily be the top AF in Asia Pacific region
    Last edited by indianguy4u; 2nd June 2005 at 07:29.
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