It wouldn't mind seeing fighter (Me-109/Mustang; F-86/MiG-15; MiG-19/F-100; MiG-23/F-4E; MiG-29/F-16; Su-30/T-50/F-22...) performance comparison based on official graphs.
Link deleted. Adriann, please do not use our forum to hawk your book. If you want to participate in discussions, fine. But the WAB is not a free vehicle to advertise. Thank you.
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This would make a bunch of giant vs threads again, while the performance charts makes it nicer and less fanboyish the amount of work required would be fairly obscene. Also with the F-4 / Mig 23 and new groupings still being in use by various countries official figures aren't fully available.
so let's open up a Pandora's box
Adriann, you are an intelligent guy, and are capable of good contributions. By all means, feel free to do so. But as I mentioned, we will not tolerate thinly disguised advertisements for your book, which is exactly what your original posting was.
I had saw the performance charts for the f-4 and f-16 at different altitudes, even for not a expert like myself it was obvious that the f-16Originally Posted by Chogy
was simply in a higher league.
any chance of seeing the mig -21 performance charts ?
J'ai en marre.
In future wars, adversaries shouldn't even bother to actually fight. They can enter the performance parameters of their weapon systems into a giant computer, and similate the war based on these facts. It will cut down on needless destruction of property and human suffering. The casualties of war could be euthanized in a humane way. The results will be registered and sent for review.
"Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
Yeah, just like that STTOS episode, "A Taste Of Armageddon", where interplanetary wars are fought by a computer, and the "casualties" voluntarily submit themselves to disintegration!
"Yeah. See, we plan ahead, that way we don't do anything right now. Earl explained it to me." - Tremors, 1990
This is exactly what I thought of, though I didn't know the name of the episode.
You two realized that GN just got you to admit that you're geeks.
Chimo
What?!?!?!? We're geeks?!?!?!? Is it THAT obvious?!?!?!?!?
BTW, I have the ENTIRE STTOS series on re-mastered DVD's! Is that obvious enough?
"Yeah. See, we plan ahead, that way we don't do anything right now. Earl explained it to me." - Tremors, 1990
Re-mastered DVDs? I'd say you have them all stored in your internal memory aka brain
No such thing as a good tax - Churchill
To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.
"Zero tolerance" Chogy ...I expected slightly more, anyway it is difficult to find fault to such a fair gamer...
"1979" "you" are 21 operator, you should be able to get some graphs, sustained are known and in-line to best of it's generation, but instantaneous graph (to the stall) you won't find from manufacturer or operator. A/c is designed for hi-altitude intercepts where low IAS correspondents to higher sub Mach numbers where directional stability degrades. Probably, that's why designers put AOA warning to lower AOA, that does not exploit lift potential of aircraft. Here's US corner velocity graph.
"In future wars, adversaries shouldn't even bother to actually fight."
In that case, military from "our" banana countries will conquer the world with bow&arrows, since they could be unfamiliar with computers ??
You have a problem with Chogy enforcing the forum guidelines?
Among the community of nations, Pakistan today stands out on one hand as a petty thug brandishing a dangerous weapon, and at other times as a concubine, sleeping with anyone willing to pay for her expensive tastes. ~ Tarek Fatah
Quotes like this can be found throughout military history, going back centuries.
Re-mastered? Bah! TOS should be enjoyed in its original broadcast format, just like Shakespear should be read in original Klingon!
"Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
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