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    I am impressed at how focussed the chinese are on maximising frames and using them for multiple roles.

    but, I reckon that AWACs using the ericcson type beam is going to have a pretty horrible butterfly map.

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    I get the impression the chromate yellow color on the ASW Y-8's is some kind of preservative coating. Is that correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by USSWisconsin View Post
    I get the impression the chromate yellow color on the ASW Y-8's is some kind of preservative coating. Is that correct?
    I've seen the same yellow finish on some major components on the classic hornets when they were being built prior to final paint

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    China seems to be far more adaptive and accepting of modern warfighting technology than the USSR ever was... they appear to be embracing electromagnetic methodologies at an alarming rate.

    I have often heard the notion that "Chinese consumer commodities are junk; therefore, their military hardware must also be junk." I don't believe that to be true. I am a hobby machinist, and Chinese machine tools have replaced Western-made equipment because of cost. Industry reps who have traveled to China to view the factories claim that the Chinese export products cut corners so as to make them very low priced, but for their own domestic market, much of the machinery they produce is every bit as good as anything out there. That philosophy can probably be extended to other Chinese technology - when desired, their products can be made to compare very well indeed.

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    I look at products from a case-to-case basis as there is a trade off between cost and quality. That said, the company I work for hired Chinese research centers to write basic stuff five years ago, now Chinese companies in ML are our biggest customers outside of NA (North America). Their entire Aerospace industry is using our software in designing their civilian aircraft. Our engineering and design principles have been adopted as their standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chogy View Post
    China seems to be far more adaptive and accepting of modern warfighting technology than the USSR ever was... they appear to be embracing electromagnetic methodologies at an alarming rate.

    I have often heard the notion that "Chinese consumer commodities are junk; therefore, their military hardware must also be junk." I don't believe that to be true. I am a hobby machinist, and Chinese machine tools have replaced Western-made equipment because of cost. Industry reps who have traveled to China to view the factories claim that the Chinese export products cut corners so as to make them very low priced, but for their own domestic market, much of the machinery they produce is every bit as good as anything out there. That philosophy can probably be extended to other Chinese technology - when desired, their products can be made to compare very well indeed.
    chinese high end stereo gear (valve technology) is highly regarded, and in some circles is considered to be a benchmark. They shouldn't be underestimated. Esp when the winning tool that they have "in spades" is political will and intent.

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    I have two very nice Chinese built Epiphone guitars, and have seen other fine Chinese musical instruments. They are capable of producing some very good consumer goods. Assuming they can't produce good equiment is underestimating them. You get what you pay for anywhere - very cheap products from anywhere are likely to be just that - very poorly made.
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    All agreed - which is what makes the recent Chinese military build-up troublesome. Those surface-surface missiles may work perfectly. Those new fighters may have superb radars and effective sensors. And they have a LOT of them.

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