Rusisia opens MAKS-2011 air show

**xinhui** · 15 Aug 11,, 19:58

B-52 baby

**xinhui** · 20 Aug 11,, 04:18

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**Stitch** · 20 Aug 11,, 04:36

Interesting; what were the B-52H, F-15E, and A-10C doing there? Showing the Russians they're still behind the curve? I noticed we didn't send an F-22.

**HKDan** · 20 Aug 11,, 06:15

Originally Posted by Stitch

I noticed we didn't send an F-22.

Can't send an F-22. Grounded.

**Ararat** · 20 Aug 11,, 09:44

Any photoes from Iranian jets at the show? I have heard they were going to partake.

**Doktor** · 20 Aug 11,, 10:01

According to the official MAKS website, the only participants from Iran were...

IRAN AIR SHOW
Kish Trade Promotion Centre facilitates the organization of exclusive exhibitions on the Kish Island including Iran Air Show or participate in international and specialized trade exhibitions.

**Dreadnought** · 21 Aug 11,, 21:33

ZHUKOVSKY, Russia (AP) - Russia's first stealth fighter jet had to abort a takeoff at Moscow's International Aviation and Space Show on Sunday because of what officials said was a malfunction in the right engine.

The T-50 did not leave the runway and was slowed by a brake parachute.

The twin-engined jet was traveling at 60 miles per hour (100 kph) when the pilot decided to abort takeoff because of a right engine malfunction, the RIA Novosti news agency reported, citing a representative of United Aircraft Building Corp., a state-controlled holding that incorporates top Russian aircraft-makers,

The T-50, which made its maiden flight in January 2010, had been kept out of the public eye before its debut at the air show on Wednesday during a visit by Prime Minister Vladimir Putin.

The fighter is intended to match the U.S. F-22 Raptor, which entered service in 2005.

The T-50 still lacks new engines and state-of-the art equipment, and its serial production is only expected to begin in 2015 at the most optimistic forecast. Two T-50s are currently undergoing tests, and another pair is expected to join them later this year.

Russia has signed deals with India to cooperate on the aircraft's development, and hopes that the Indian air force will become a major customer for the plane.

The six-day air show at the Zhukovsky air base outside of Moscow wrapped up on Sunday.

iWon News - Russian stealth fighter aborts takeoff at air show

**Dreadnought** · 21 Aug 11,, 21:48

Originally Posted by HKDan

Can't send an F-22. Grounded.

According to many sources they are only grounded for the Oxygen generating sytem currently under review. Not mechanical problems with the aircraft.

**Jimmy** · 22 Aug 11,, 00:51

No oxygen is a pretty big deal.

**Stitch** · 22 Aug 11,, 01:09

Originally Posted by Jimmy

No oxygen is a pretty big deal.

Could they still be flown at low-level, say, below 10,000'? Or is OBO still required at any altitude?

**xinhui** · 22 Aug 11,, 01:22

it is an airshow, right?

**Dreadnought** · 22 Aug 11,, 03:44

Originally Posted by Jimmy

No oxygen is a pretty big deal.

Yep, but once corrected fully operational. Doubt they will sit much longer. They had a 25,000ft limit. As compared to their competition this seems to be a minor setback.

One source for this:
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...be-widens.html

**Jimmy** · 22 Aug 11,, 05:51

Originally Posted by Stitch

Could they still be flown at low-level, say, below 10,000'? Or is OBO still required at any altitude?

Generally for unpressurized flight 10k is the limit...this is the case for the few aircraft I'm familiar with the rules on. I would assume it's the same across the board, but I don't know that for sure. They're still available if needed for a contingency, they're just not flying any training missions. There's an acceptable risk level for training, then there's an acceptable risk level for real-world stuff.

Flying for a significant amount of time at 10k feet is tremendously wasteful.