Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 38

Thread: Question about the French Airforce

  1. #1
    Senior Contributor Dago's Avatar
    Join Date
    23 Feb 06
    Location
    San Diego, Califonia
    Posts
    1,031

    Question about the French Airforce

    I've been looking on the web, on sites with procurement information, etc etc...but can't seem to find anything. Thought I would ask it here.

    What type of assets do France use for jamming enemy radar? What is there e/w platform? Are they pods, that are placed on the Rafael's or etc...or do they have dedicated operating from the Air Force? Any links on Military equipment of France would be appreciated.

    Secondly, what are there ELINT assets and ground surveillance? I am sure they use satellites, just wondering what type of assets similar too JSTARS's that monitor ground frequency's and movement.

  2. #2
    Senior Contributor Dago's Avatar
    Join Date
    23 Feb 06
    Location
    San Diego, Califonia
    Posts
    1,031
    This is what I found -

    Sounds versatile, and wondering if they incorporated with a e/w suite. If they have a dedicated one. Or if they rely on pods. Like the F/A-18G.


    C-160 Transall Cargo and Tactical Transport Aircraft, France (C-160 Transall Cargo and Tactical Transport Aircraft - Air Force Technology)

    The C-160 Transall aircraft are twin turboprop transporters in service with the air forces of France, Germany and Turkey. The aircraft is a cantilever high-wing monoplane and is configured for transportation, paratroop drop, electronic surveillance, airborne communications relay and medical evacuation.

  3. #3
    Senior Contributor Dago's Avatar
    Join Date
    23 Feb 06
    Location
    San Diego, Califonia
    Posts
    1,031
    OK, I found it.

    SKY SHIELD (Rafael Advanced Defense Systems Ltd.)

    The system features:
    Proven SEAD system
    Effective EW shield against a wide range of enemy threats
    Coverage of wide range of modern techniques
    High ERP
    System installed in a certified pod
    Compatible with many aircraft types


    -

    So it looks like the aircraft went in there using the pod's.

  4. #4
    Battleship Enthusiast Defense Professional USSWisconsin's Avatar
    Join Date
    05 Dec 08
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    4,288
    Quote Originally Posted by Dago View Post
    OK, I found it.

    SKY SHIELD (Rafael Advanced Defense Systems Ltd.)

    The system features:
    Proven SEAD system
    Effective EW shield against a wide range of enemy threats
    Coverage of wide range of modern techniques
    High ERP
    System installed in a certified pod
    Compatible with many aircraft types


    -

    So it looks like the aircraft went in there using the pod's.
    Thanks for doing this research, very interesting
    "If your plan is for one year, plant rice. If your plan is for ten years, plant trees.
    If your plan is for one hundred years, educate children." -- Confucius

  5. #5
    Staff Emeritus
    Military Professional
    Mostly Harmless
    bigross86's Avatar
    Join Date
    07 Aug 03
    Location
    Tel Aviv, Israel
    Posts
    11,339
    Israeli equipment over Libya. Better hope the press doesn't get word of this...
    Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

    Abusing Yellow is meant to be a labor of love, not something you sell to the highest bidder.

  6. #6
    Senior Contributor
    Join Date
    05 Sep 06
    Posts
    1,759
    ... France doesn't use Sky Shield to my knowledge. Iirc Rafael actually hasn't sold it anywhere outside Israel, even if they advertise everywhere.

    The French Rafale mounts the [SPECTRA] electronic warfare suite internally, which includes a defensive phased-array radar jammer. This system is integrated with the aircraft. A similar earlier system that is carried at least by the 12 SEM bombers on Charles de Gaulle (and probably on Mirages) is the 1980s [Barem] jamming pod aka Remora.

    The two C-160G Gabriel that EE 1/54 has combine a COMINT system and gear to pinpoint radar sources.
    Last edited by kato; 20 Mar 11, at 21:17.

  7. #7
    Ex-Wabber Defense Professional
    Join Date
    10 Dec 04
    Posts
    7,029
    I think they use an integrated auto-surrender system. All the onboard weapons are jettisoned, a white flag deploys from the rear of the aircraft, then the ejection seat activates.
    "We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way." -President Barack Obama 11/25/2008

  8. #8
    Battleship Enthusiast Defense Professional USSWisconsin's Avatar
    Join Date
    05 Dec 08
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    4,288
    Quote Originally Posted by highsea View Post
    I think they use an integrated auto-surrender system. All the onboard weapons are jettisoned, a white flag deploys from the rear of the aircraft, then the ejection seat activates.
    Isn't there a step where they drain the onboard wine tank?
    "If your plan is for one year, plant rice. If your plan is for ten years, plant trees.
    If your plan is for one hundred years, educate children." -- Confucius

  9. #9
    Senior Contributor Dago's Avatar
    Join Date
    23 Feb 06
    Location
    San Diego, Califonia
    Posts
    1,031
    Quote Originally Posted by kato View Post
    ... France doesn't use Sky Shield to my knowledge. Iirc Rafael actually hasn't sold it anywhere outside Israel, even if they advertise everywhere.

    The French Rafale mounts the [SPECTRA] electronic warfare suite internally, which includes a defensive phased-array radar jammer. This system is integrated with the aircraft. A similar earlier system that is carried at least by the 12 SEM bombers on Charles de Gaulle (and probably on Mirages) is the 1980s [Barem] jamming pod aka Remora.

    The two C-160G Gabriel that EE 1/54 has combine a COMINT system and gear to pinpoint radar sources.
    Ah good stuff. Thanks, that's what I was looking for.

  10. #10
    Ex-Wabber Defense Professional
    Join Date
    10 Dec 04
    Posts
    7,029
    mon-dieux!

    we musn't let the Bordeaux fall into enemy hands!
    "We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way." -President Barack Obama 11/25/2008

  11. #11
    Staff Emeritus Julie's Avatar
    Join Date
    04 Aug 03
    Location
    Georgia, USA
    Posts
    10,559
    What about them sending the Charles de Gaulle carrier to the Libyan coast? Lots o' problems with that piece of equipment, and I hear the French Government is being sued for exposing crew members to dangerous levels of radiation because the nuclear reactor installation was done poorly, exposing the engine crew to five times the allowable annual dose of radiation.

  12. #12
    Senior Contributor
    Join Date
    05 Sep 06
    Posts
    1,759
    The two Gabriels have been used in previous NFZ enforcement btw, in particular in Bosnia and Kosovo. They were also used in Afghanistan supposedly.

    The old Mirage F1-CR recon jets France still operates are also useful in this regard; they can be equipped with [ASTAC] ELINT pods. This system is also an integral part of the Gabriels, and the pods have been integrated on French Mirage 2000-5F. Supposedly - not confirmed - the Rafale can carry it too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Julie View Post
    Lots o' problems with that piece of equipment [...]
    Those were all solved over 10 years ago, despite people from the island across the channel still spreading exactly that "done poorly" line on Strategypage.
    Last edited by kato; 21 Mar 11, at 01:00.

  13. #13
    Administrator Tarek Morgen's Avatar
    Join Date
    08 Feb 07
    Location
    Kassel
    Posts
    4,193
    The carrier has been deployed this weekend.
    uh I might be wrong


  14. #14
    Senior Contributor Dago's Avatar
    Join Date
    23 Feb 06
    Location
    San Diego, Califonia
    Posts
    1,031
    Looks like the Carrier has a bit of reach as we'll, as they have American E-2 "Hawkeye's". Three of them to be exact.

    [

    That's a pretty sufficient reach, for Naval applications. I am not sure if they are using the AEW off the de Gaulle, because they have there own AWAC'S and NATO AWACS are currently deployed.




    Last edited by Dago; 21 Mar 11, at 01:31.

  15. #15
    Regular Zad Fnark's Avatar
    Join Date
    06 Nov 09
    Location
    Neenah
    Posts
    72
    What weapons are the French using nowadays for their anti-armor scourge?

    I haven't kept on that too well, since the good 'ol college days, playing Air Superiority/Air Strike 'til four in the morning.

    Seeing the pic of the Flogger going down shows Libya as a museum of Cold War technology.

    ZF-

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 2 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 2 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Indian Airforce vs Pakistan Airforce
    By Thakur in forum Military Aviation
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 04 Jun 08,, 21:22
  2. INDIAN AIRFORCE vs TURKISH AIRFORCE
    By vishv29 in forum Military Aviation
    Replies: 110
    Last Post: 24 Apr 08,, 14:23
  3. isreali airforce vs french airforce
    By vishv29 in forum Military Aviation
    Replies: 29
    Last Post: 03 Jan 06,, 16:09
  4. pak airforce vs irani airforce
    By vishv29 in forum Military Aviation
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 12 Dec 04,, 21:40

Share this thread with friends:

Share this thread with friends:

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •