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    Turkey aims to design and build its own Airliner by 2023

    Turkish Airlines launches cabin parts venture with TAI
    By Tolga Ozbek
    DATE: 29/12/10
    SOURCE:Air Transport Intelligence news
    Aircraft Maintenance Technology and Aviation Maintenance News from Flightglobal

    Turkish Airlines' maintenance division, Turkish Technic, has formally launched a joint-venture company with Turkish Aerospace Industries, named Turkish Cabin Interior Systems.

    The company aims to produce galleys, crew rests, and other general fittings and seat parts for commercial aircraft.

    It will be based in Ankara and 30%-owned by Turkish Airlines, 21% by Turkish Technic and 49% by TAI.

    "We are gathering our technical and marketing expertise under the same roof with TAI...in order to be in the premier league of manufacturing in the cabin interior systems business," says Turkish Airlines chairman Hamdi Topcu.

    "We would like to prove how aircraft cabin interior products can be produced at high quality under a 100%-Turkish brand. Turkey will be a maintenance, repair and manufacturing hub that should be taken seriously in the near future."

    Turkey is aiming to design and produce an airliner to coincide with the Turkish republic's centenary anniversary in 2023, and Topcu says the cabin "is the first step".

    TAI chief Mehmet Yalcin Kaya says the company, as a result of the venture, will become "more effective in the civil sector".
    Big plans...

    Turkish Aerospace Industry has for many years been limited to components manufacturing for Boeing and Airbus. It has in the recent years invested heavily in R&D for indegenous design and integration projects.
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    Turkey is aiming to design and produce an airliner to coincide with the Turkish republic's centenary anniversary in 2023, and Topcu says the cabin "is the first step".
    That is strange statement. The first step in designing any aircraft would be its mission. Being it will be an Airliner then things like endurance, range, usefull load, runway requirements, fuel consumption will have to conidered first before cabin design which can effect the empty weight of the aircraft.

    Get that trainer (hurkus) flying first before you do anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ararat View Post
    That is strange statement. The first step in designing any aircraft would be its mission. Being it will be an Airliner then things like endurance, range, usefull load, runway requirements, fuel consumption will have to conidered first before cabin design which can effect the empty weight of the aircraft.

    Get that trainer (hurkus) flying first before you do anything else.
    If they license build an established platform the interior may be all they need to design.

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    a great effort, i hope they can succeed.

    @Ararat,

    thank you...you are fortifying my position about us...
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    How big do they want it to be?

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    Turkish Aerospace Industries is currently holding talks with Canada's two leading aviation companies Bombardier and Goodrich for the joint-development and production of a new and larger Regional airliner.

    Turkish Aerospace firm in talks with Canadian firm for partnerships
    Turkish Aerospace firm in talks with Canadian firm for partnerships [ WORLD BULLETIN- TURKEY NEWS, WORLD NEWS ]

    Turkish Aerospace Industries Inc. held talks with Canadian companies to set up partnerships.
    Turkish Aerospace Industries Inc. (TAI) held talks with Canadian companies to set up partnerships.

    TAI Director General Muharren Dortkasli, who accompanied Turkish State Minister Zafer Caglayan during his visit to Canada, held meetings with Canada's leading aviation companies Bombardier and Goodrich.

    During his talks with executives of the two Canadian companies, Dortkasli took up cooperation opportunities, and conveyed some offers.

    Speaking to A.A, Dortkasli said that Bombardier was one of the companies which could meet the regional passenger plane need of Turkish Airlines (THY), thus, TAI was looking for a partnership opportunity with Bombardier.

    Noting that Turkish market was growing each day, Dortkasli said that TAI wanted to produce planes by itself or together with a company by 2023.

    We target to design and produce our own passenger and civilian planes by the 100th anniversary of the foundation of Republic, he noted.

    Dortkasli said that TAI was also talking with other companies besides the Canadian ones, adding that a partner would be more beneficial in regional passenger plane production in commercial aspect.

    Meanwhile, Goodrich, global supplier of systems and services to the aerospace and defense industries, made an offer to TAI to work together in helicopter production. Goodrich executives said that they envisioned that 5,500 helicopters would be produced in the world in the next decade, and Goodrich could cooperate with TAI in this issue. Officials from Goodrich will visit Turkey in December to discuss the issue.

    TAI, the center of technology in design, development, manufacturing, integration of aerospace systems, modernization and after sales support in Turkey, was established in 1984.

    Located in Ankara, TAI's aircraft facilities, which cover an area of 5 million square meters with an industrial facility of over 200,000 square meters under roof, are furnished with high technology machinery and equipment that provide extensive manufacturing capabilities.

    Furthermore, in order to develop a ground for defence-aerospace skills, and create synergy among small to medium enterprises and universities, a significant part of engineering-based activities are conducted at the Techno Park located in the Middle East Technical University.

    The quality system of the Company meets the stringent world standards including NATO AQAP-2110, ISO-9001:2000 and AS EN 9100. TAI has a total of 3000 employees, 1200 of whom are engineers. The shareholders of the Company are; the Turkish Armed Forces Foundation, the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries and Turkish Aeronautical Association.

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    WORLD BULLETIN- TURKEY NEWS, WORLD NEWS , printed on 20.01.2011.
    Surprisingly this will be Turkey's third indegenous civilian aircraft:

    The first was back in the 1930's called the Nuri Demirdag (NUD) 36 and Nuri Demirdag (NUD) 38.










    The other modern regional aircraft to be designed in Turkey was the Turkish Aerospace Industries designed and produced HD-192 Turboprop regional airliner. This was TAI's most promising projects but it never reached full-scale production due to the financial crisis Turkey experienced at the time.


    Turkey now is planning to initially co-develop and produce a regional airliner with most probably Bombardier then it is planning to develop larger aircraft indegenously. It will be powered by Turbofan engines being developed by Turkish Engine Industries (which has experience in licence production of F-135 fighter engines and parts for CFM engines).

    Through experience gained from it's indegenous projects and the joint projects (e.g. licence production of the CN-235 transport aircraft http://www.tai.com.tr/prog.aspx?cont...T__PROGRAM__19 ) it's subsidiaries Airbus Military SL and Turkish Engine Industries (Turkish Aerospace Industries Inc. - Turkey) have worked on Turkey believes it can have a much larger and fully functional airliner by 2023 which it can market to the OIC member countries and Africa.
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    The Turkish government has allocated a budget of US$1 billion for the initial Conceptual design phase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ararat View Post
    That is strange statement. The first step in designing any aircraft would be its mission. Being it will be an Airliner then things like endurance, range, usefull load, runway requirements, fuel consumption will have to conidered first before cabin design which can effect the empty weight of the aircraft.

    Get that trainer (hurkus) flying first before you do anything else.
    It's not merely a trainer aircraft! It is a Counter-insurgency aircraft.

    And by the way the following are TAI built platforms which are currently flying:

    310 TAI built F-16
    20 TAI built Cougar Search & Rescue Helicopters
    TAI ANKA MALE UAV
    TAI T-129 ATAK
    50+ TAI built CN-235

    The list goes on....
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