Thread: Old school jet retooled to fight J-20 and other Stealth planes

Originally Posted by kuku

What is the total value of the RAAF divided by the number of super hornets?

Media Release - Department of Defence

Dont sound too cheap, till we know just how inclusive were the cost figures for the new F-15's, just imagine if one took the 10 year figure of 6 billion dollars as the cost of the plane.

The RAAF costs also include raise, train, sustain elements over the life of retention (10 years when these go back to the US unless we change our minds).

Defence also tends to include any additional stand up costs (eg base improvements) so that they can assess overall system support costs.

Originally Posted by Inst

It lacks the AESA of F-15C variants, however.

The USAF F-15Es will be getting a different AESA set than the one that the C models have started to receive. The F-15Cs have started to get the AN/APG-63v3, while a couple of years down the road, the Es will start to get the APG-82 which apparently combines the processor of the APG-79(Superhornet's AESA) with the antenna of the APG-63v3. Not really sure what the difference between the two is in terms of performance though

Originally Posted by Inst

Zraver: If I recall, the costs for most domestic F-15 variants go up to only 30 million or so, which goes up to 40 million in current dollars. The F-15K is either really updated, or McDonnell Douglas is ripping off the Koreans.

I do not think the Koreans are that new to purchasing fighter aircraft........

It was in competition with other planes (even if to drive the eventual cost down).

Originally Posted by gf0012-aust

The RAAF costs also include raise, train, sustain elements over the life of retention (10 years when these go back to the US unless we change our minds).

Defence also tends to include any additional stand up costs (eg base improvements) so that they can assess overall system support costs.

Yes the Oz MoD statement was quite clear in expressing that.

I doubt the Singapore and South Korean 100 million dollar figures for F-15E versions do not include a lot of factors (training, spares etc.).

There must be detailed figures released about the purchase by both South Korea and Singapore.

The notice by DSCA

On 22 August 2005, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military
Sale to Singapore of weapons, logistics, and training support for F-15 aircraft as well as associated equipment
and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $741 million

http://www.dsca.osd.mil/PressRelease...pore_05-39.pdf