F-22 for sale...maybe?

**Versus** · 12 Jun 10,, 19:17

These babies will sell like hot cakes.
Defense Ministry eyes possible lift of US ban on foreign sales of F-22 fighter

**Skywatcher** · 12 Jun 10,, 19:23

Assuming that anyone can afford significant numbers of them. The maintenance costs will be a major headache.

**Versus** · 12 Jun 10,, 19:43

Oh, I think that Iran's nuclear threat, justifies any price. It will be interesting to see how things will develop, all things considering.

**Zinja** · 12 Jun 10,, 22:47

Check the date of that article. If i were a mod i would close this thread henceforth.

**bigross86** · 12 Jun 10,, 22:48

The IAF usually only orders airframes with a multi-role capability, so it will be interesting to see how the Israelis tweak the F-22 to fit their needs, much like they tweaked and played around and the end results were the F-15I and the F-16I

**Zinja** · 12 Jun 10,, 23:04

Originally Posted by bigross86

The IAF usually only orders airframes with a multi-role capability, so it will be interesting to see how the Israelis tweak the F-22 to fit their needs, much like they tweaked and played around and the end results were the F-15I and the F-16I

The F-22 is dead bigross. That article is out of date.

**bigross86** · 12 Jun 10,, 23:21

Right. Didn't see that. Good catch

**StevoJH** · 13 Jun 10,, 00:05

And even if it wasnt dead you'd have to be mad to purchase them as a third party given the issues outlined by a number of people (eg. gf) on both this and other forums.

**Jimmy** · 13 Jun 10,, 01:15

There's not even a snowball's chance in hell the US would allow export to Israel. Maybe in 30 years, when it doesn't matter who they sell the technology to, but not now.

**Versus** · 13 Jun 10,, 06:21

Originally Posted by Zinja

Check the date of that article. If i were a mod i would close this thread henceforth.

Ooops,didn't saw that one...yeah it's pretty obsolete.Sorry

**Versus** · 13 Jun 10,, 06:23

Originally Posted by Jimmy

There's not even a snowball's chance in hell the US would allow export to Israel. Maybe in 30 years, when it doesn't matter who they sell the technology to, but not now.

Well if they cannot be purchased maybe they can be leased?

**Jimmy** · 13 Jun 10,, 16:00

Originally Posted by Versus

Well if they cannot be purchased maybe they can be leased?

It's not a money issue, it's a national security issue about letting someone else have the technology.

**Maxor** · 13 Jun 10,, 18:10

Its also a lack of airframes issue. What unit is the US doing to deactivate to lease the planes to someone else?

**Jimmy** · 13 Jun 10,, 21:57

Originally Posted by Maxor

Its also a lack of airframes issue. What unit is the US doing to deactivate to lease the planes to someone else?

Ugh, don't say that too loud, somebody might hear you and run with it.

**Maxor** · 14 Jun 10,, 03:21

Say what that 187 airframes even highly capable supercruising airframes, can't over the next 3 to 5 years hope to replace the numbers of retiring f-15 and 16's while the lightening tries to come online? The part where secratary of defense knowing this decided to change the long held requirement of 2 regional conflicts down to 1 to allow that number of planes to hope to hold up assuming no losses as they can't really be placed from new production? I'm not going to criticize to much but really can the US still act as a worldwide police force while continually cutting its numbers in the armed services? I understand the ability to have first day complete non nuclear domination of the opposing force but aren't we begining to seriously cut into our abilities to actually hold the area we have just cleared of the enemy?