"the UK and Argentina had 'talks about talks' in the late 70's/early 80's, and significant compensation for the Islanders was on the table, the Islanders got wind of it and went ballistic - for some bizaare reason they decided that they didn't want to be foreigners living under a kleptocratic, nationalistic dictatorship with several million % inflation and students being thrown out of helicopters!
the local media down there run polls fairly regularly, i doubt that less than 2% would accept money either to become argentine or be relocated to the UK..."
Thought so.
Well, no dicking around this time with after-the-fact and get a brigade down there most ricky-tick at the first hint. I'd hope that at least munitions have been pre-positioned to handle such if not artillery and light armor as well. Dunno what you guys have beyond an expanded AFB (I think). Won't discuss specifics but I'd hope that radar coverage has been extended from west island westward for early-warning.
"This aggression will not stand, man!"
Jeff Lebowski
Apologise for the OT - When I first heard about that I was disgusted. In more ways than one it seemed completely damned if you do, damned if you don't from an islanders perspective.Originally Posted by dave angel
Dovetail that into the Ghurkha issue and it feels just plain alien. Thanks for the clarification. Im not to sure how many do actually realise this has been thought of, and enacted before by the U.K Govt.
Ego Numquam
that is a 1996 figure, Su-33 is around 85milion USD.
You are correct, China can afford it, but like the Su-30MK3, China simply does not want the Russian famous after market support.
“the misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing compared to the misery of not being exploited at all” -- Joan Robinson
some sweet MKV pics
“the misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing compared to the misery of not being exploited at all” -- Joan Robinson
“the misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing compared to the misery of not being exploited at all” -- Joan Robinson
oh my
“the misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing compared to the misery of not being exploited at all” -- Joan Robinson
Guys, are you sure this is correct?
As I understood it, Menem made the offer of $800,000 - $1 M per Islander family to skidaddle. It was Menem who put that on the table, not the UK gov?
"Liberty is a thing beyond all price.
In ex Indradhanush, IAF SU-30 versus RAF Typhoon, apparently the Typhoon did rather well against it. Although the Indian SU`s were not allowed to use their PESA radars. There was a question about their use and some interference with civvie ATC frequencies I think. On top of that the IAF wanted to go "noses cold" anyway to preserve the radar capabilities.
The Typhoon is a slippery customer by virtue of its great acceleration, which apparently got it out of trouble WVR most of the time. All unsubstantiated....of course.
A biggie for me is the track record of Russian AAMs on non RuAF fighters...not exactly stellar, is it? Trust in AMRAAM
Can anyone see VAF pilots wanting to fight someone else s fight?
"Liberty is a thing beyond all price.
No, but I can see Chavez giving them the usual dictator incentive. Going after the families.
F/A-18E/F Super Hornet: The Honda Accord of fighters.
sorry mate, two ends of a stick to choose from!
the above quote is about the UK's dodgyness in sublty changing the entitlement of British passport holders to live in the UK if they are from - in this case - the south Atlantic territories. post '82 such 'reforms' were reversed and all Falkland Isladers have full UK residency rights.
didn't know about the technicalities of Menem's offer, but in the late 70's the Argies were making similar noises - posibly the money would be funnelled through the FO instead of the AG so it looked better - but yeah, they've got a history of offereing cash to the islanders to either fcuk off, or decide they've always loved the Tango.
they made some progress in the late 70's - opinion on the islands, while pro-British, wasn't viscerially anti-Argentine - but that, as you can imagine, kind of went to ratshit when the Argentine government started throwing students out of helicopters and then invading the islands!
before criticizing someone, walk a mile in their shoes.................... then when you do criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/th...iaf-su30m.html
A rare brief from a pilot? of F-15 at Nellis AFB. This video is a rare one and it
really dispels the SU30MKI myths. In cobra manouver the F-15 could simply machine gun the Sukhoi. So other variants of the Sukhoi should be easier to handle.
Last edited by Herc the Merc; 07 Mar 10, at 21:06.
The cobra maneuver is not a combat tactic, it's an airshow display (and a cool one at that). It won't out-manuever a missile, but it WILL kill all your energy. You might as well fly into the ground and hope the guy behind you follows you in...you've got about the same chance of survival.
BUTTTTT... it has to be a combat maneuver! Maverick in the movie "Top Gun" used twice become victorius over his opponent.)
And the Soviets adopted the F-5 as their frontline maritime strike aircraft, too. LOL
What? You mean those were really MiG-28s?!? You mean Hollywood lied to me?
USNA 2014?
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