paintgun, unlike hollywood stereotype russian surnames mostly end on -ov/ev, so Raptorov or Black Widowov )
Last edited by Andrey Egorov; 29 Jan 10, at 16:17.
As for Sukhoi, a couple years I sat in their acrobatic airplane that a guy at my airport owned. It's a one seater, when you sat back in the seat, you were so comfortable, it felt like you were sitting in a recliner. And when you moved the stick there was no "lost movement", if you took one finger and slightly moved the stick left, the controls would respond to it. If this is as well-built an aircraft as that one was, it's a good airplane.
jr1, they're Belorussian(or even Polish)
This will be a nightmare for the forum administration all around the globe. An avalanche of threads about F-22 vs Pak-Fa.
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Last edited by rj1; 29 Jan 10, at 17:20.
It looks like a larger modified F-22.
I wonder if down the road they will develop a stealth bomber, something to rival the B-2.
Well the Russians have some of the most advanced missiles & subs on earth, I'm sure they have the capability to develop some of the most advanced stealth technology possible (do not discount the fact they are getting help via Indian involvement). I’ll be very surprised if the final T-50 is not at least comparable to the F-22/F-35.
Last edited by nebula82; 29 Jan 10, at 17:56.
Very nice looking bird Looks prettier than the Raptor which I think only looks good from certain angles. (Now before I get crucified for that remember that whole "eye of the beholder" thing) I dont think anyone here has the ability to gage RCS reduction based on a picture!!!!! But at least it is a serious effort. Users of the Typhoon and and Rafale might be feeling a little uncomfortable this morning!!! But this may be the impetus needed to push further developments of those aircraft. Im thinking specifically about the Typhoon here with regards to AESA Radar, Conformal weapons bays etc.
What are folks thoughts on a realistic in service date? It sure as heck isnt going to be 2015 as some sites are claiming!!! Also, is this bird required to be carrier capable?
"Admit nothing, deny everything, make counter-accusations".- Motto of the Gun Crew who have just done something incredibly stupid!!!!
While there may be some electronic upgrading by 2015. I highly doubt the airframe will be changed at this stage in the game. Problems I see compared to F-22 is a less stealthy airframe, Inadequate IR suppression, and apparent lack of a iridium-tin oxide canopy to deflect radar waves from the Cockpit. Giving the Russians some benefit of doubt the T-50 may have a RCS value closer to the F-35. But defiantly nowhere near the F-22. But then again it costs a lot less to.
Last edited by Thomas1016; 29 Jan 10, at 20:21.
The Indian involvement will be on the Indian version of this bird, the FGFA; which will have a different set of avionics and will also see changes to the airframe. India's bird will not be a single seater.
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I am not an expert in aerodynamics.
My first uneducated impression is not so hot. I would say 7 out of 10.
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