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    Fed up of delays, India shops for non-Russian platforms


    Fed up of delays, India shops for non-Russian platforms




    New Delhi:

    In an articulation of India’s annoyance over nagging delays in several key defence acquisitions, New Delhi finally seems to have decided to reduce its dependence on Russia for military hardware. Two key upcoming acquisitions that Moscow would have liked to believe it had in the bag — the next batch of three aircraft for additional Airborne Early Warning and Control Systems (AWACS) and six refueling aircraft for the Air Force — are all set to be given to non Russian companies.

    The signal was clear on Thursday morning at the induction ceremony of India’s first AWACS when an unusually vocal A K Antony publicly asked the Russian ambassador to ensure that defence equipment is delivered in time.

    He also took on the Israeli ambassador for delays in the Phalcon AWACS that were delivered a year-and-a-half behind schedule. Russia, followed by Israel is one of the two biggest suppliers of military equipment to India.

    Antony’s outburst against delays by Russia has been preceded by action from the Indian Air Force. A top official confirmed that in the follow on order for three additional AWACS, that is likely to be placed by 2012, the Russian IL 76 aircraft will be replaced by a different plane.

    While the first three Israeli AWACS to be delivered by next year will be mounted on the Russian IL 76 aircraft, when the next order is placed, the aircraft used will either be the American Gulfstream or Brazilian Embraer jets.

    “We will replace the IL 76 by a modern aircraft like the Gulfstream or Embraer. Both have an endurance of nine hours that is close to what the Russian aircraft has,” an official said.

    While the ageing IL 76 is one concern, the real trouble for Russia seems to be its inability to deliver the aircraft on time for the AWACS deal that was signed in 2004. Sources said that Russia overshot its schedule for modernisation of the IL 76 aircraft with new engines and avionics, leading to the programme going back by a year-and-a-half.

    Another deal that Moscow would have thought it had secured — additional refueling aircraft for the IAF — is also set to go the European Airbus 330 MRTT. This comes as a surprise as India’s current fleet of air-to-air refuelers are Russian IL 78 aircraft. It would have been easier to place a follow on order for the Russian tankers and would have been far easier to operate them as maintenance facilities already exist in the country.

    However, while the Russian aircraft was also considered for the contract, the IAF has placed it below the Airbus in the crucial flight evaluations that decide the procurement. IAF says that the Airbus scored way above the Russian aircraft and has given it as its preference for the contract.

    India’s reluctance to order additional Russian platforms comes from several delayed deals that have been impeding defence modernisation. While in the past, smaller delays were ignored, the experience with the Gorshkov aircraft carrier was the final nail in the coffin.

    Besides delaying the delivery of the carrier by over four years — it was supposed to be inducted by 2008 — Russia surprised India by asking almost twice the agreed amount for refurbishing the warship.
    Fed up of delays, India shops for non-Russian platforms
    With all the delays and equipment issues, Russia has finally managed to kill her "historic relationship" edge in defense deals. I think things just got much tougher for MiG for the MRCA contract.
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    Well the Russians had it coming. With their unproffesional approach and take it or leave it attitude, India had to take a stand.

    However India still be purchasing quite a bit of Russian equipment. The most notable being SU 30 and the PAK-FA programme and the order for the Frigates. Also they stand a good chance for the Heavy lift helicoptor requirement.

    For the MRCA deal I also feel that this is a clear indication that Mig 35 will not be the desired choice.

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    Mig is a dead meat as far as the MMRCA is concerned. Other than the existing maintenance facilities available for the Migs and the familiarity of the crew with that platform, there is hardly any advantage that the Mig35 can offer. Changed strategic priorities also comes to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deltacamelately View Post
    Mig is a dead meat as far as the MMRCA is concerned. Other than the existing maintenance facilities available for the Migs and the familiarity of the crew with that platform, there is hardly any advantage that the Mig35 can offer. Changed strategic priorities also comes to play.
    Sir,

    IMO India should be ready for some serious arm twisting by the Russians as the decision time for the MMRCA approaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deltacamelately View Post
    Mig is a dead meat as far as the MMRCA is concerned.
    Agreed. I think India is moving towards a more 'balanced' military as far as country-specific equipment goes. It's important not to be too dependant on any one supplier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axeman View Post
    It's important not to be too dependant on any one supplier.
    Much more important is to source your requirements from within. What are we doing on that front?

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    India must start looking at european supplier

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    Re: Fed up of delays, India shops for non-Russian platforms

    The PLAAF is also getting tired of Russia's "non-performance" in weapons delivery and support. Nothing but excuses and delays!

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