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Reply With QuoteIf it leans back, it pulls you away from the flight controls...if you've got a good grip on the stick now you're pulling it back which could affect your direction of flight when you maybe dont want to.
Hey ppl I was just wondering about a new concept that just came to my head and I thought maybe I would ask ppl here. In designing a fighter pilot's dress they pay attention to how the blood could be pumped up to the brain. What I was wondering was suppose you could design a mechanism in which you could tilt the seat of the fighter pilot. (It would be controlled by the computer sensing the Gs.) That way the component of the force that actually matters would be reduced (Diagram below)
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If it leans back, it pulls you away from the flight controls...if you've got a good grip on the stick now you're pulling it back which could affect your direction of flight when you maybe dont want to.
Not if the flight controls were attached to the system itself and tilted aswell?Originally Posted by Jimmy
it still won,t reduce g forces, adds weight, complex, plus your pic doesn,t show.
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Dale Brown, in his book "Day of the Cheetah" talks about such a seat for his thought controlled aircraft.
The F-16 has a tilted seat, something to do with preventing blood pooling in the lower body when pulling Gee, but it is fixed.
RAVSTA, I think you just invented an independent, gyro-stabilised, gimbal mounted cockpit for fighters! Can anybody say, "sick bag"!
"Liberty is a thing beyond all price.
So now we have an independently moving cockpit? This is getting pretty complex, not to mention a lot of extra weight.
But actually I was thinking that this would be a mechanism that could be turned on and off so it wouldn't just tilt you when you weren't in combat.Also I want to say that maybe the stick could move with the seat and the vital information would be displayed on the helmet mounted HUD. The instruments would remain where they are. After all do you absolutely need you fingers on them every second of the chase. As soon as you would stop turning you would have the instruments. Maybe this it won't add to the weight too much?
(I hope)
Good concept, but too expensive, too complex, too heavy. It's probably easier to stick a pilot in a giant centrifuge and hit "puree" to get him used to high G force.
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...And the throttle would have to move with the seat, the rudder pedals as well as the stick.. The better solution would be a fluid filled cockpit and a fancy Gee suit, if your getting wild!Also I want to say that maybe the stick could move with the seat and the vital information would be displayed on the helmet mounted HUD. The instruments would remain where they are....
"Liberty is a thing beyond all price.
Oh yeah true! I didn't think about the throttle and pedals. But with your idea about the fluid-filled cockpit, if im getting the physics right, Wouldn't that only mean 1 less G.
Any fluid would still be subject to gravitational forces, you are right of course. The weight of the fluid would probably crush the occupant when pulling Gee. Now, if we are getting funky,you would have to surround the cockpit in a "gravity bubble" to make the pilot immune to those forces....!
Practically, only a G-suit can help the pilot. I like those "Libelle" G-suits used by Luftwaffe Eurofighter pilots, they are water/fluid filled. The problem is that a pilot has to re-learn "G-tolerance" grunting and straining, it doesn`t work quite the same way in these suits. These fancy G-suits are apparently quite uncomfortable until you learn how to react to them.
"Liberty is a thing beyond all price.
You could indeed design it such that all the instrumentation & controls moved with the seat, but unless that pilot was flying in some sort of clear plastic bubble, you'd be changing/ reducing his external view. If all he had to concern himself with the one threat he was making the high-G turn to avoid, I suppose this would suffice. But I don't know of any pilot that allows their situational awareness to degrade to the point where they concentrate soley on one issue at a time--even in emergency situations.
If you know the enemy and yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles. - Sun Tzu
In most Soviet-designed aircraft (and helicopters) the pilot's view is so lousy I dont know if that would really matter.
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