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    Variable Geometry Inlets

    Just looking for some information on variable geometry engine inlets such as those found on the F-14, F-15, and B-1A. How exactly do they work, I mean I know they control the air flow into the turbojet engines by changing shape. But how specifically fo they accomplish this?

    I just watched a video where a F-15 (JSDF) changes the inlet geometry.

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    YouTube - 2007 Komatsu Airshow F-15 Scramble Demo (no edit)

    Are the inlets not made out of metal? It looks like that inlet changes shape like it's made out of playdough? The top comes down, but the sides just seem to...squish.

    Whats the story, how does this work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JA Boomer View Post
    Just looking for some information on variable geometry engine inlets such as those found on the F-14, F-15, and B-1A. How exactly do they work, I mean I know they control the air flow into the turbojet engines by changing shape. But how specifically fo they accomplish this?
    On the F-14, there are three ramps, made of metal. They are hinged, and actuated by three hydraulic actuators. The ramps move into pre-determined positions depending on an input from the airspeed sensor to the analog Automatic Flight Control System. The AFCS in turn works with the engine control system, and autopilot, all analog computers to control the aircraft.

    At sub-sonic speeds, all three ramps are in the up position, with a small gap between two and three. The gap allows some intake air to escape through the bleed air door on top of the inlet housing. This lets sub-sonic, air enter the engine.

    At transonic speeds, ramps one and two are slightly opened creating a shock wave that is deflected downward, away from the engine intake. Ramp three is slightly opened, allowing more air to escape through the bleed air door. The goal here is to allow only subsonic air to enter the engine.

    At supersonic speeds, the ramps are fully deflected. This allows a lot of air to escape through the bleed air door. It also compresses the air right at the inlet. This compression accelerates the intake air and creates a large shock wave that is reflected away from the intake. Once the air passes the constriction of the ramps, it has more room and less compression. With less compression, the air slows to a sub-sonic speed, which is just what the engine needs. The shockwaves, are always deflected away from the engine air intakes.

    Testing developed the three positions needed for optimal air intake speed on the F-14. Thus, an analog computer can do the work as it only needs to know one input, airspeed. It then picks between three positions, closed, slightly open or fully open. The bleed air door is a fixed position door. Again, testing developed the optimal setting. So once that was decided on, it was fixed and no further control was called for. This rather simple system results in some limits on the top end of the speed range for the F-14. In flight testing with some experimental intake ramp positions, it was discovered that the F-14 could easily hit Mach 2.6. However, the engines had real problems at transonic speeds where the airplane usually works. Thus it was decided to sacrifice some top end for simplicity and much better control in the middle of the speed range.

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    Thanks for the interesting info. So it sounds like the three ramps on the Tomcat were located inside the air intake for each engine. Was there any mechanism where the outside of the intake changed shape like the Eagle?

    I'm still racking my brain as to how exactly the sides of the F-15 intakes compress like that. I'm hoping not to have to wait until next year's airshows to find out, anyone?

    Also, what exactly about the variable intake is it that balloons the aircrafts RCS?

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    They don't, it's just the angle you're looking at them that changes and appears to change their actual shape. They're quite rigid; they can rotate upo, down, and slightly to the sides.

    As for the RCS - there might be components that act as part of a 'corner', thus amplifying the return signal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGTharos View Post
    They don't, it's just the angle you're looking at them that changes and appears to change their actual shape. They're quite rigid; they can rotate upo, down, and slightly to the sides.
    So the whole inlet simply rotates downward. So the bottom rear portion of the sides and the bottom must slide into the wing root slightly when the inlets rotate down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGTharos View Post
    They don't, it's just the angle you're looking at them that changes and appears to change their actual shape. They're quite rigid; they can rotate upo, down, and slightly to the sides.

    As for the RCS - there might be components that act as part of a 'corner', thus amplifying the return signal.
    In addition, remember that inlet designs are optimized for airflow control, not RCS reduction. An inlet in a certain position may not be a good reflector, but will be an excellent one in another position. Designing stealthy movable inlets sounds like a nightmare scenario! There could be too many trade off`s between engine efficiency and stealth. The best thing we can do AFAIK is to optimize inlet lip`s for stealth (shaping) and airflow control (geometry), then apply RAM coatings to the lip and intake surfaces..

    A bigger RCS issue are visible compressor blades, which are great radar reflectors, so we just hide them beyond "S" shaped ducts with fixed inlets. Is anybody using nozzle radar blockers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIN MAN View Post
    In addition, remember that inlet designs are optimized for airflow control, not RCS reduction. An inlet in a certain position may not be a good reflector, but will be an excellent one in another position. Designing stealthy movable inlets sounds like a nightmare scenario! There could be too many trade off`s between engine efficiency and stealth. The best thing we can do AFAIK is to optimize inlet lip`s for stealth (shaping) and airflow control (geometry), then apply RAM coatings to the lip and intake surfaces..

    A bigger RCS issue are visible compressor blades, which are great radar reflectors, so we just hide them beyond "S" shaped ducts with fixed inlets. Is anybody using nozzle radar blockers?
    I thought one of the biggest issues when they redesigned the B-1A into the B-1B was to get rid of the variable inlets because they were a HUGE radar reflector. Thus, they shed the great speed of the B-1A for the far improved RCS of the B-1B?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JA Boomer View Post
    I thought one of the biggest issues when they redesigned the B-1A into the B-1B was to get rid of the variable inlets because they were a HUGE radar reflector. Thus, they shed the great speed of the B-1A for the far improved RCS of the B-1B?
    Yes, the variable items were probably a thorn in the side of RCS reduction measures, removing them also saved cost/weight/complexity and maintenance hours..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JA Boomer View Post
    Thanks for the interesting info. So it sounds like the three ramps on the Tomcat were located inside the air intake for each engine.
    All three were along the top of the inlet from the lip inwards. Ramp one was hinged forward. Ramp two was hinged to the aft end of ramp one. Ramp three was hinged aft and located aft or ramp two.

    Was there any mechanism where the outside of the intake changed shape like the Eagle?
    No. On the F-4 the plate adjacent to the fuselage was a triangle and it moved forward and aft depending on airspeed. It was located in front of the inlet. Thus changing slightly the inboard inlet shape. But, on the F-14 locating the ramps inside the intake was found to be optimal. The intake, other than the ramps, did not move.

    Also, what exactly about the variable intake is it that balloons the aircrafts RCS?
    It is all about radar reflection. Change a ramp and it may reflect radar energy differently. For example, a ground based radar aimed up at a supersonic F-14 might get a nice strong reflection from ramp one. The same radar might have its energy reflected into the engine, and thus lost, from the same aircraft flying at sub-sonic speed. Conversely, an airborn radar might get a strong reflection from the engine compressor blades of a sub-sonic F-14, while a supersonic F-14's ramp one would deflect the radar energy toward the ground.

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    Two other interesting designs are the moveable cones on the SR-71 inlets and the moveable 1/4(?) cones on the F-111 inlets. I think they just move forward and backward to keep the shockwave outside the inlet and only allow subsonic air into the engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    Two other interesting designs are the moveable cones on the SR-71 inlets and the moveable 1/4(?) cones on the F-111 inlets. I think they just move forward and backward to keep the shockwave outside the inlet and only allow subsonic air into the engine.
    The Mirages use a half cone moveable inlet.

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    Shows how far ahead of the field Kelly Johnson was when he designed the F-104 Starfighter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wabpilot View Post
    It is all about radar reflection. Change a ramp and it may reflect radar energy differently. For example, a ground based radar aimed up at a supersonic F-14 might get a nice strong reflection from ramp one. The same radar might have its energy reflected into the engine, and thus lost, from the same aircraft flying at sub-sonic speed. Conversely, an airborn radar might get a strong reflection from the engine compressor blades of a sub-sonic F-14, while a supersonic F-14's ramp one would deflect the radar energy toward the ground.
    Mmm...interesting, so it's not that variable geometry inlets relect radar more than fixed inlets...it's all just random chance. Although with fixed inlets, you know what your dealing with 100% of the time.

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    mig21 has movable cone
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    Quote Originally Posted by glyn View Post
    Shows how far ahead of the field Kelly Johnson was when he designed the F-104 Starfighter.
    What do you mean, bearing in mind that the Starfighter has fixed inlets??

    Oh, I see, that was your point...

    Come to think of it, so were the inlets on the EE Lightning!

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