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Old 09-14-2007, 23:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Help me identify this WW2-era German aircraft

Please note the wrecked German aircraft in foreground in this picture:

WW2DB: [Photo] P-51 Mustang fighter being serviced at an airfield near Frankfurt, Germany, Mar-Apr 1945; note the wrecked German aircraft in foreground

What model is that?

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Old 09-14-2007, 23:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Fw-190.
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm going to have to go with the caption,that looks like the wingtip configuration of a Bf-109.But,I'm probably wrong .
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:52 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Fw 190 without a shadow of a doubt.
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The wings are Fw-190 without a doubt
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 09-15-2007, 15:48 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I have a couple of links for you gentlemen to peruse Image:Bf109E 3Seiten neu.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
FW 190 A-8 'Green 5 + ' of the Stab J.G. 1
These links show that both planes had versions with round and squared off wingtips......how do we know what this plane is??The caption does specify that it is an E version Bf-109 which did have squared off wings.

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Old 09-15-2007, 16:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Fw-190

I thought it was tail (rudder) empennage that confirmed it.
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Old 09-15-2007, 17:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The caption says bf-109
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Old 09-15-2007, 17:14 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I thought it was tail (rudder) empennage that confirmed it.
Now that I have put the old bi-focals on I see the point you are making.I bow to your identification of said empennage....Fw-190 it is .
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Old 09-15-2007, 17:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I thought it was tail (rudder) empennage that confirmed it.
Quite right. The Bf 109E had a braced tailplane. The aircraft in the original picture clearly does not. Also compare the fin and rudder.
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The caption says bf-109
So it does and the wings appear to be that of a Bf-109E Emil model but sappersgt's point about the tail configuration is correct,the little horn at the top and the shape of the well for the tailwheel appear to be from an FW-190.
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Old 09-15-2007, 17:20 PM   #13 (permalink)
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The caption says bf-109
Captions don't impress me one little bit. If the hand of the press or other media is involved, then I EXPECT them to bog it up! Look at the usual dreary stock footage of WW2 and gasp that over 60 years after the war ended they STILL can't get it right!
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Old 09-15-2007, 17:21 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Quite right. The Bf 109E had a braced tailplane. The aircraft in the original picture clearly does not. Also compare the fin and rudder.
And so it does,one more thing I missed .
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Old 09-15-2007, 18:28 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Don't use the caption for ID, folks. I guessed it was a Bf 109 when I wrote the caption, but I know I wasn't certain, that's why I came here for help =]
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