Help me identify this WW2-era German aircraft - Page 2

gunnut · 09-16-2007, 05:18 AM

Definitely Fw-190.

I'm looking at my models right now. All Fw-190s have bigger rudders than Bf-109 and the angles are different.

texasjohn · 09-16-2007, 15:04 PM

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Originally Posted by glyn

Quite right. The Bf 109E had a braced tailplane. The aircraft in the original picture clearly does not. Also compare the fin and rudder.

How could I have missed the braced tailplane? and I am building a bf-109 model right now!!!!

temujin77 · 09-16-2007, 15:10 PM

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Originally Posted by texasjohn

How could I have missed the braced tailplane? and I am building a bf-109 model right now!!!!

Hehe, it's ok, happens to the best of them.

zraver · 09-16-2007, 15:15 PM

Not a pilot so forgive me, but a 109 also has the little wings in the back by the tail above the level of the fuselage the 190 has them mounted only about 3/4 up on the fuselage.

texasjohn · 09-16-2007, 22:26 PM

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Originally Posted by zraver

Not a pilot so forgive me, but a 109 also has the little wings in the back by the tail above the level of the fuselage the 190 has them mounted only about 3/4 up on the fuselage.

buddy,

Could you send a picture of that in detail? This is a scratchbuild! I get to add the details..

gunnut · 09-17-2007, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by texasjohn

How could I have missed the braced tailplane? and I am building a bf-109 model right now!!!!

About that brace for the tailplane, I'm looking at my model of a Bf-109G and it doesn't have those. My Bf-109E had those. Both models are made by Hasegawa in 1/72 scale.

glyn · 09-17-2007, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gunnut

About that brace for the tailplane, I'm looking at my model of a Bf-109G and it doesn't have those. My Bf-109E had those. Both models are made by Hasegawa in 1/72 scale.

The Emil was the last model of Bf 109 to have a strutted tailplane.

zraver · 09-17-2007, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by texasjohn

buddy,

Could you send a picture of that in detail? This is a scratchbuild! I get to add the details..

Just look at the ass end of each plane. The wings on the tail of a 109 are above the fusealge (mounted to the tail), the 190 has them mounted on the body of the aircraft itself

RAVSTA · 11-28-2007, 06:27 AM

I don't know but the caption when I read actually says FW-190 not Bf-109
It is so because you can see the trailing edge of the wings give it away besides the rough ratio of the length to width of the wing also tells you.

ArmchairGeneral · 11-28-2007, 16:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RAVSTA

I don't know but the caption when I read actually says FW-190 not Bf-109

That's because the guy who has the pic posted asked the question in the first place. Naturally, he fixed the caption.

temujin77 · 11-28-2007, 18:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmchairGeneral

That's because the guy who has the pic posted asked the question in the first place. Naturally, he fixed the caption.

And the guy who has the pic posted is most appreciative of everyone's feedback!

ddog · 05-09-2008, 15:17 PM

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Originally Posted by temujin77

Don't use the caption for ID, folks. I guessed it was a Bf 109 when I wrote the caption, but I know I wasn't certain, that's why I came here for help =]

Just for further clarification... it is a Focke-Wulf 190 D9. You can tell it is the D9 model because just ahead of the empennage is the classic 10 inch insert that was used to change the CG of that aircraft when it was changed from the short-nosed version to the longer-nosed D9 version.

Hope this helps.

Bowman · 05-09-2008, 16:39 PM

Clearly an FW-190, mate.

gunnut · 05-09-2008, 17:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ddog

Just for further clarification... it is a Focke-Wulf 190 D9. You can tell it is the D9 model because just ahead of the empennage is the classic 10 inch insert that was used to change the CG of that aircraft when it was changed from the short-nosed version to the longer-nosed D9 version.

Hope this helps.

Actually the short nose became the long nose Dora because the original radial engine was switched out for a V engine. You can't lengthen the aircraft in the front only. You have to lengthen it in the back to counter balance.

09-16-2007, 05:18 AM	#16 (permalink)
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09-16-2007, 15:15 PM	#19 (permalink)
zraver Contrary by nature. *Military Professional* Join Date: 10-22-06 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,337 Country:	Not a pilot so forgive me, but a 109 also has the little wings in the back by the tail above the level of the fuselage the 190 has them mounted only about 3/4 up on the fuselage.

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RAVSTA New Member Join Date: 11-26-07 Posts: 8 Country:	I don't know but the caption when I read actually says FW-190 not Bf-109 It is so because you can see the trailing edge of the wings give it away besides the rough ratio of the length to width of the wing also tells you.

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Bowman Regular Join Date: 03-26-07 Posts: 71	Clearly an FW-190, mate.

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