Question about the differences between the Su- 30,35,37

jtl310 · 08-22-2007, 22:33 PM

To start i would like to say im not a military proffessional nor do i have much knowledge in aviation sector... im just a civilian who wants to learn.. so pls bare with the questions..

Firstly Im aware of the fact that india has placed large orders for the Su-30 MKI ... but my question is why did the Inaf not consider the 35,37 variants .. or if they did consider them why did they opt for the su-30s? and in your view would you say this was a smart decision? or if u dont think it was wise what would you have done?

secondly which aircraft is india leaning towards buying in regards to the ~200 medium fighter jets. I know the the air show had many contenders, but which aircrafts are in real contention?

Thirdly ~250 su-30
~200 Medium fighter jets
~250 HAL tejas LCA
Now that is a total of ~700 fighter jets that will be completed by 2015.

So my third question is in your opinion how many fighter jets/ squadrons will India need too become a dominant air force? to protect its own air space and also to assert itself in south asia/ middle east.

( im leaving US out on purpose because the US has had a head start on the 5th gen fighters and they are light years ahead enuff said right there)

Dectilion · 08-23-2007, 03:34 AM

The simple answer to your question is that the SU-30MKI meets India's requirement. While they hold different designations. The SU-30, 35, and 37 are all based on the SU-27. Further from that, the Su-30 MKI is one of over a dozen variants of the Su-30. In reality. The MKI is considerably more advanced than the basic SU-30, it is much more alike to the SU-35, which has something like 75% or 80% commonality with the MKI.

Really the SU-27, 30, 35, and 37 designations are far too vague to correctly identify these craft.

obrescia · 08-31-2007, 20:58 PM

The SU-35 is moving target as far as technologies incorporated vs. the Su-30 [MKI] and SU-33. From what I’ve be able to gather:

SU-35: Original designation is SU-27M, in reality is an entirely new airframe, [canards/thrust vectoring].

Tail cone: dielectric random tip replaces normal brake chute cover. The change believed to have something to do with rear hemisphere radar coverage and over-the-shoulder BVR.

Weapons: 3 new very long range AAM-L anti-AWACS missiles.

Random: Updated ‘Flat-Plate’ Radar, smaller random bulge.

ECM Pods: Wingtip launch rails have new transmitter/receiver capability rather than both just transmit.

Tail Fins: Taller, more fuel capacity and have extended rudders

Engines: new AL-31FM rated @ 29,320 lbs thrust each.

Flight Control: full digital fly-by-wire.

08-22-2007, 22:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
jtl310 Regular Join Date: 02-08-07 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 52 Country:	Question about the differences between the Su- 30,35,37 To start i would like to say im not a military proffessional nor do i have much knowledge in aviation sector... im just a civilian who wants to learn.. so pls bare with the questions.. Firstly Im aware of the fact that india has placed large orders for the Su-30 MKI ... but my question is why did the Inaf not consider the 35,37 variants .. or if they did consider them why did they opt for the su-30s? and in your view would you say this was a smart decision? or if u dont think it was wise what would you have done? secondly which aircraft is india leaning towards buying in regards to the ~200 medium fighter jets. I know the the air show had many contenders, but which aircrafts are in real contention? Thirdly ~250 su-30 ~200 Medium fighter jets ~250 HAL tejas LCA Now that is a total of ~700 fighter jets that will be completed by 2015. So my third question is in your opinion how many fighter jets/ squadrons will India need too become a dominant air force? to protect its own air space and also to assert itself in south asia/ middle east. ( im leaving US out on purpose because the US has had a head start on the 5th gen fighters and they are light years ahead enuff said right there)

08-23-2007, 03:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
Dectilion Regular Join Date: 01-13-07 Posts: 137	The simple answer to your question is that the SU-30MKI meets India's requirement. While they hold different designations. The SU-30, 35, and 37 are all based on the SU-27. Further from that, the Su-30 MKI is one of over a dozen variants of the Su-30. In reality. The MKI is considerably more advanced than the basic SU-30, it is much more alike to the SU-35, which has something like 75% or 80% commonality with the MKI. Really the SU-27, 30, 35, and 37 designations are far too vague to correctly identify these craft. __________________ ROAD WARRIOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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08-31-2007, 20:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
obrescia Banished Regular Join Date: 07-27-07 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 95 Country:	The SU-35 is moving target as far as technologies incorporated vs. the Su-30 [MKI] and SU-33. From what I’ve be able to gather: SU-35: Original designation is SU-27M, in reality is an entirely new airframe, [canards/thrust vectoring]. Tail cone: dielectric random tip replaces normal brake chute cover. The change believed to have something to do with rear hemisphere radar coverage and over-the-shoulder BVR. Weapons: 3 new very long range AAM-L anti-AWACS missiles. Random: Updated ‘Flat-Plate’ Radar, smaller random bulge. ECM Pods: Wingtip launch rails have new transmitter/receiver capability rather than both just transmit. Tail Fins: Taller, more fuel capacity and have extended rudders Engines: new AL-31FM rated @ 29,320 lbs thrust each. Flight Control: full digital fly-by-wire.

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