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Reply With Quote"The brainwashing media are hard core liberals just like Michael Moore."
Both sides of the spectrum could be called "brain washers"...
And don't get me going on Canadians.
They are only one step above the French...
"The brainwashing media are hard core liberals just like Michael Moore."
Both sides of the spectrum could be called "brain washers"...
Not that I disagree with what you say mostly and I completely understand your emotions are heavy in your reply but for fun's sake, would you mind this Canadian taking a jab at your points?Originally Posted by alton987
The hand sure gives a mighty big whack when it wants to. Mad Cow. Softwood lumber. Salmon fisheries. And the biggest whack of all, all those lawyers we throw at each other.
Actually, by being taxed to death.
Depends on the time frame. Before mid 19th Century, trade with the British Empire was far more important than with the US. Therefore, our trade grew up together.
The US will never allow us to cut off our energy supplies. In fact, the US demanded that guarrantee in the Free Trade agreement.
We were and are a world power. We were in WWI and II alot earlier than the Americans. We were the 4th strongest nation right after WWII. My army is the 2nd most deployed army in NATO. Standing by ourselves, we're in demand. Standing besides the Americans, no one noticed us ... except the Americans who wanted us there.
UNPROFOR is a testament that the UK, France, and Canada decided to take a stand that the US was not willing to take, at least, not until IFOR.
The CIA has yet to admit their wrongdoings, including actions against the Canadian contigents in UNPROFOR.
WWI and II, UNPROFOR, the Ottawa Treaty, NAFTA, NORAD, NATO, and the upcoming Ballastic Missile decision.
Hope you take this in the spirit that it was given.
Chimo
ok, bluesman... i don't care if you sound like a kid, you still act like one. Keep on laughing cuz thats all you can do... you came on this forum cracking jokes and you gonna leave crackin jokes. It don't bother me at all. I dun care be u in SOCOM or the SAS, you're still a dork to me. lol, the jokes on you. laugh...laugh...laugh... lol, what a dork. Block me or don't, see if I care...This one's FUN, man! I'm not putting this yutz on my IGNORE list, because some of the stuff he posts is just too dam' funny for parody. [giggle]
Tronic, my lad, DO NOT get discouraged. You keep postin' ya hear? [snort]
Hey, look for my new thread on why rolling-eyed lefties seem to come from the ranks of students...I think you may be able to contribute something to the discussion from first-hand knowledge. [GUFFAW!]
Not that I am going to change your mind about Canadians but Tronic is a foreign student studying in Canada.
Chimo
I always love your post. So I will leave the post as is out of respect. We could always do the point counter thing for days. :-) I know as soon as I posted the response you would jump in. I keep waiting for you to tell the TRON guy to shut up.
Anyway have you heard anything about the Rules of Engagement for the Alaska exrcises? That’s why I made the Cannon reference which started this whole rant fest. The exercise in the Indian Ocean was made to be some Indian Air Force ass kicking until the rules of engagement came out like 6 months later.
Much love to CANADA*!
*Expect posters name TRON
Last edited by alton987; 18 Jan 05, at 01:20.
For it is a mad world and it will get madder if we allow the minorities, be they dwarf or giant, orangutan or dolphin, nuclear-head or water-conversationalist, pro-computerologist or Neo-Luddite, simpleton or sage, to interfere with aesthetics. ("Coda" 1979)
LMFO!!! YOU STILL BELIEVE IN THE CANNON THING??? I THOUGHT YOU HAD LEARNED... Also, no execise between Indian and American forces took place in the Indian Ocean... it was in Gwalior Air Base, India... Also, the Indians faced the same restrictions as the Americans, the only advantage the Indians had was that they got to fly more planes. So for every 1 american plane, there were 3 indian... Also, the exercises in Alaska, there were no restrictions. The Indian planes had to go through American defenses; SAM's, air patrols, etc to take out the well defended targets... And then the Americans had to do the same thing the Indians did. Also, many other countries took part in that exercise. I believe Canada was one of them... only the other nations didn't fly any planes... they operated the ground defenses...
*sigh* well... thats that for this post... if you can't take the fact that Indian Jaguars went through the American defenses to bomb targets, well then thats just you. The thing that most people don't realize is that whatever restricitions are forced on one side the other side faces the same too... In COPE INDIA exercise which took place in Gwalior, the Indian planes ALSO FACED THE SAME RESTRICTIONS. The only handicapped was that the Indians outnumbered the Americans by 3:1...
well... thats for the facts... I dunno why you guyz dragged Canada down into this... anywayz i'm leavin this thread cuz it seems like you guyz are going off topic.
As much as I want to, my service gave him the right to speak. I cannot and will not tell him to shut up ... except when he's on my personal ground.
The WAB is not my ground. I have no right nor privledge to tell anyone to shut up. I just try to counter the wrong points.
I don't know much about the AF exercises since that's not my fortay.
Chimo
The Indian Air Force had Awacs support while the USAF did not.
The Indian Air Force had Ground radar support the USAF did not.
Source
http://kuku.sawf.org/Articles/139.aspx
Do you have any sources on the Rules of Engagement in Alaska?
Last edited by alton987; 18 Jan 05, at 01:56.
For it is a mad world and it will get madder if we allow the minorities, be they dwarf or giant, orangutan or dolphin, nuclear-head or water-conversationalist, pro-computerologist or Neo-Luddite, simpleton or sage, to interfere with aesthetics. ("Coda" 1979)
that site isn't an official site. It's run by one guy who writes and posts his own articles. Read "Aviation Week And Space Technology" magazine and you'll see the details of the exercise... and also that article says that AWACS were NOT used by any side cuz if they were then there would be no point of the exercise as the Americans would become sitting ducks. Also, the official statement, says that the Mig-21's "MAY" have gotten ground radar support. On that article says that they did but the truth is still unknown...
and yeah, AA-12's and Mica's range isn't very different from the American AIM's.
Last edited by Tronic; 18 Jan 05, at 02:05.
"ok, bluesman... i don't care if you sound like a kid, you still act like one. Keep on laughing cuz thats all you can do... you came on this forum cracking jokes and you gonna leave crackin jokes. It don't bother me at all. I dun care be u in SOCOM or the SAS, you're still a dork to me. lol, the jokes on you. laugh...laugh...laugh... lol, what a dork. Block me or don't, see if I care..."
My, what a witty and deep cutting retort.....or not.
Thread is degenerating in a flame war....When people are prejudiced,you can't do anything to convince them,no matter what proof you give.. The exercise was just that...an exercise,to see the shortcomings of your Air Force....So I don't see why it should create ill will....
The US has its bad side,so does Canada...Hell the whole world is in a mess right now..But there are good things too,like KFC in the US,or the mounties in Canada....
You are right there. Thats why I was'nt posting anything here. Big deal if some Jags evaded radar. Anyone flying below 500 mtrs will evade it.
Air force superiority and naval superiority...it was getting to hot to handle. After all, I'm the infantry guy who is looking at victory below his feet, while the rest of the gang is arguing whose gun is bigger back at the base.
Cheers!...on the rocks!!
No InAFs not buying F-15s or F-16s. What I meant was IAFs Su-30s scored kills over USAF F-15s and Singaporean F-16s in recent exercises with the USAF and Singapore AF in India in 2004.
"Nobody else comes close". That’s exactly what the USAF F-15 pilots learnt when InAF Su-30s scored BVR kills on them from afar during Cope India 2004
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