l certain key F-22 specs inferior to the F 15? And other concerns. - Page 3

avon1944 · 07-29-2007, 04:00 AM

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And the F-22 can hit mach 1.7+ without afterburner now!
This was when the F-22 was only cleared to fly at 50,000ft. (15,242m). Since then the F-22 has now been cleared to fly at 65,000ft (19,817m) and higher in the future with upgrades!
The altitude advantage increases the range of the F-22's weapons while cutting by forty percent or more the range of the opponents weapons.

Dozer takes the F-22 in a climb -Reply #243
F-22 Raptor Discussion

Reply #261
"I remember one mission where I ended up solo 1 vs. 6 with F-16's and I shot them all and they never saw me. Yes it's really that good." -Mike "Dozer" Shower (F-22 pilot)

Reply #289
F-22 Raptor Discussion

Reply #1126
F-22 Raptor Discussion

Enjoy -Adrian

urmomma158 · 07-31-2007, 16:43 PM

avon1944 I was referring to the SDB's range when I was talking about 60nm not the raptors supercruise range.

obrescia · 06-23-2008, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy

Fuel fraction means nothing, unless both aircraft are running identical engines. And even then it wouldnt be a level playing field due to other factors (drag, etc).

VHF is easily jammable, and frankly it wont do them any good to have VHF or LW towers to detect inbound Raptors...you cant target based on it, and you'll have a helluva time trying to run an intercept using that data...and even if you COULD, your plane would likely be shot down before he ever got any indication from his own radar.

But anyway, a layered defense such as you describe is typically reserved for a SERIOUSLY important location...say, Moscow. If the US has no desire to march past Lenin's tomb, then there's no reason to try to defeat such a defense. You wont see a system that thick lining the border.

There are some interesting things going on.

Raptor afterburner behavior looks more turbo-Jet like (Like Mig-25) ? Low bypass engines may require use of reheat (afterburner) at lower maneuvering speed and/or altitudes, this is plainly evident (see link):
YouTube - F22 Langley 2007 Friday Evening Demo

How this may affect Raptor range(s) I don’t know.

F-15 would not have weapons carriage restrictions per say; limited by space inside weapons bay(s). So a meteor type ram/scram-jet weapons could be used (or say ASM-135 ASAT)?

F-15 would not have helmet sighting seeker-head fields of view restrictions either.

07-29-2007, 04:00 AM	#31 (permalink)
avon1944 Patron Join Date: 04-26-05 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 267	RE: l certain key F-22 specs inferior to the F 15? And other concerns [quote=Northalius;392792] And the F-22 can hit mach 1.7+ without afterburner now! This was when the F-22 was only cleared to fly at 50,000ft. (15,242m). Since then the F-22 has now been cleared to fly at 65,000ft (19,817m) and higher in the future with upgrades! The altitude advantage increases the range of the F-22's weapons while cutting by forty percent or more the range of the opponents weapons. Dozer takes the F-22 in a climb -Reply #243 F-22 Raptor Discussion Reply #261 "I remember one mission where I ended up solo 1 vs. 6 with F-16's and I shot them all and they never saw me. Yes it's really that good." -Mike "Dozer" Shower (F-22 pilot) Reply #289 F-22 Raptor Discussion Reply #1126 F-22 Raptor Discussion Enjoy -Adrian

07-31-2007, 16:43 PM	#32 (permalink)
urmomma158 the real plastic *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 03-05-06 Location: NJ Turnpike Posts: 937 Country:	avon1944 I was referring to the SDB's range when I was talking about 60nm not the raptors supercruise range. __________________

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