mkjforprez92

Ok guys and gals i think that i may be beating a dead cow but i shall press on. Now which is the better aircraft the F22 raptor or the F35 JSF?
I know the raptor has super cruise and great stealth and that the JSF have VTO but aside from im not sure which aircraft is best.

wabpilot

Another waste of bandwidth.

Let's hope the thread either gets locked or hijacked into something useful.

I'll try to hijack it. But, I certainly have no objection if the mods lock it. The F-35 has different missions from the F-22. All are important, but no one plane can perform them all. Indeed, the F-35 is really three different aircraft.

F-35A - A replacement for the F-16 as a land based light attack aircraft. May also replace the A-10, though I have doubts about its effectiveness in that roll.

F-35B - A replacement for USMC, RN and RAF Harriers. The only version with STOVL capability.

F-35C - Something new for the USN, a stealthy medium attack type. The C is not really a replacement for anything in the USN arsenal but an augmentation to our capabilities. To be fair, had the A-12 succeeded, the C would be viewed as its replacement. The C is the only CTOL carrier capable version.

dalem

I will attempt hijack with a whiney cry against the injustice of the demise of the A-12.

1) It looked very sci-fi and futurey and cool.

2) I am a sucker for flying wing thingies.

3) Nothing is more American than dropping a 500lb LGB onto the faces of Bad Mans from something that looks like a spaceship and is called The Flying Dorito.

4) Nacho Cheese Doritos are the lifeblood of the universe and all things should strive to reach their pinnacle of perfection.

5) It would have been very easy to model.

-dale

Jimmy

Hay guys whutz bettar, A-10 or F-15?

Edit: F-22 is almost exclusively air-to-air. F-35 is primarily air-to-ground.

gunnut

Hey guys, F-16 or M-16?

F is on the left index finger on a QWERTY keyboard where M needs a small movement of the right index finger to hit.

But M looks like a beefier letter.

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mkjforprez92

lol sorry no need to so hostile wabpilot i was unclear about it so thanks for clearing that up i guess and for the previous post i dont know much but ide have to for the a10 cause that gun is one mean piece of hardware for ground attack

TopHatter

Hijack away, you're doing great.

To be honest, you were kinda asking for it with a question like that.

By the way, a suggestion for your future posts: Punctuation is always a good idea.

Shamus

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gunnut

Sorry, it's just that we had a rash of pissing contest lately and our patience is wearing thin.

You would receive less "hostile" response if you had asked something like "what's the difference between F-22 and F-35" or "why do we need both F-22 and F-35."

A simple "this vs. that" will most likely get you some weird responses.

wabpilot

Hotel Sierra!

Injecteer

Heck, those A12 pics resemble the Millenium Falcon way better, than any of Sukhoy's T50!

A pocket B2

GVChamp

If you don't mind me...erm...dehijacking for a second, how does the -35's AA abilties compare to other advanced fighters(Rafale, Typhoon, whatever else might be in the air in the next 15 years) and the -15C?

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F14Dude

The F-22 beats the F-35 easy. The F-35 beats everything else easy. there you go.

Terran empire

Mission profiles vary F22 is meant to secure the sky's F35 is to clean up.

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Jimmy

At this point, pretty much everything I've been able to find is speculation. The USAF only has a couple of F-35s so far, and pretty much all official info is classified above Secret...which means if you arent directly involved (and even if you are, in some cases) you dont find out.

But...its not specifically a fighter, it will basically have the same mission as the F-16. Which means primarily dropping bombs, while carrying a couple of air-to-air missiles to defend itself. If it were launched on a no-kidding A2A mission, I'd expect it to kill a Rafale with little difficulty. I'd expect it to be comparable to a Typhoon, although the stealth ability would probably give it a BVR advantage. I'd expect it to kill an Eagle with little difficulty.

Personal opinion and expectation, nothing more.