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View Poll Results: Should US Export F-22?
Yes 66 42.86%
No 88 57.14%
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Old 05-15-2007, 20:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Should US Export F-22?

A quick poll, should the US export the F-22, and to which countries if they desired to purchase it? Our initial requirement was 750, which has now dropped to 180. Including development costs, the cost of a single F-22 with a production of 180 is $361 million. Should the US supply some our allies with the F-22?
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Old 05-15-2007, 20:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I voted yes, but with a delivery date of no earlier than 15 years...

Of course we should only supply this to our closest allies like Australia, Canada, and United Kingdom.
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Old 05-15-2007, 21:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Voted no, but in 10-15 years I would probably change my vote.
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Old 05-15-2007, 22:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I voted Yes, but only on a very limited basis. Countries like the UK, Australia, and Canada are fine (setting aside the political and budgetary concerns) but Israel or Japan is a bit of a stretch, though I'd be open to selling the ROK a less capable export version.
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Old 05-16-2007, 00:25 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I voted no with expcetions. I would allow it for the mother country or our British decended kindred.
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Old 05-16-2007, 01:57 AM   #6 (permalink)
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yeah i have voted no also, however if it was the other way round and The UK or Australia developed such a leap in technology as they would and have in the past indeed share with the US! However i voted no because as a general rule i would say no but maybe some exceptions.
That said i would be very suprised if anyone other than the US and maybe Japan could afford them anyway! Certainly not The UK at present which is sad.
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:46 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I voted no, but mostly with regards to Japan and Korea. I can't agree with anything that would up the ante in east asia. F-15 variants are a much more acceptable idea for them as far as I am concerned.
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Old 05-17-2007, 02:02 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I voted yes. We should export to Japan, Australia, Britain, and Israel.
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Old 05-17-2007, 14:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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No. Not for at least 15 years
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:02 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Well then you won't be getting very much F-22s. You have priced the F-22s nearly out of the Air Force. If you want more F-22s then start selling them to lower the price down.
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:09 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I voted yes, but with a delivery date of no earlier than 15 years...

Of course we should only supply this to our closest allies like Australia, Canada, and United Kingdom.
We're not buying them now that's for sure, we've already put this much money into the JSF/Super Hornet combo, and simply put, unless you got a LOT of export orders, then the Raptor is going to be too expensive for us to even buy one squadron without sapping money out of other areas. All this is irrelevant anyway, since even with the planes we have now, Australia is totally unchallenged by anyone else in the SE Asia/Pacific Islands area, except for the US Armed Forces.
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All this is irrelevant anyway, since even with the planes we have now, Australia is totally unchallenged by anyone else in the SE Asia/Pacific Islands area, except for the US Armed Forces.
As long as you don't interfere with other countries' affairs and don't stop on anybody toes or promote that "White only" **** like you did several decades ago.
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Old 05-19-2007, 13:01 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Voted yes, because I want us to have them :D

But seriously, even if it was a somewhat downrated spec - it would be in the USA's interests to at least export the airframe/some components to allies it trusts in order to get the price down due to economy of scale...
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Old 05-19-2007, 15:21 PM   #14 (permalink)
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As long as you don't interfere with other countries' affairs and don't stop on anybody toes or promote that "White only" **** like you did several decades ago.
Another outburst of misdirected hysteria from the legal profession Spoonman ISN'T several decades old so he wasn't responsible anyway. So why are you having a hissy fit at him? That chip on your shoulder just grows and grows, doesn't it!
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Old 05-19-2007, 16:52 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I voted Yes.

I suppose the US government has no choice to sell it or not. The F-22 cost is too expensive even for US military budget, they definitely need to have a rich consumer to support the programm. And the only such probable consumer not limited in cash is Japan. As the other US allies, such as Canada and Australia, are a bit poorer and will hardly allow themselves a lot of Raptors. The Brits and other Europeans are more interested in their own Eurofighter. Poland has already packed with F-16. Without Poland I don't know who else would wish to buy F-22.
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