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Old 04-25-2007, 12:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Japan's military

I don't really know weather it's the right place or not, but I have a question, how is Japan military ?? is it good enough of protecting it even from nuke attacks ?? on what place does it come comparing to other countries ??
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Premiere AF and Navy, and if they decided to, could even give the USN a go (Tom Clancy's Debt of Honour does have some semblance of reality). The Army is lacking in operational experience and adequately trained but having the least amount of money spent on them.

Since they train with the Americans, I would expect them to be able to fit into American organization with ease but I really don't know how aggressive their commanders are. For some fantastic imagined scenario that an enemy should be able to land in Japan, I expect a very dedicated and effective defence. Ask a Japanese brigade to advance on Baghdad, I have my doubts.
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Old 04-25-2007, 15:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Premiere AF and Navy.
Agreed. Getting into a brawl with their AF or Navy is not something that should be done lightly.

They may not have enormous supercarriers, but their Navy has good numbers and state of the art technology. Ditto their AF. Excellent fighters and AWACS platforms.

It's probably safe to say that they have the largest and most technologically sophisticated Navy in Asia.
Anybody that can match their numbers can't match their tech and vice versa.

Japan's military limitations are largely self-imposed. If the gloves came off, they'd probably have little difficulty building the 2nd most powerful Navy in the world for example.
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Old 04-25-2007, 16:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Japan's military limitations are largely self-imposed. If the gloves came off, they'd probably have little difficulty building the 2nd most powerful Navy in the world for example.
True, but why bother? We already protect em with ours. Instead of them spending money to do it, we do. I'd take that kinda deal without complaining too.
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Old 04-25-2007, 16:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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So we can call it safe !! another question, this law that Japan can't build advanced weapons and else, do you expect it to end ? and do you expect that Japan will build nukes ?!
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True, but why bother? We already protect em with ours. Instead of them spending money to do it, we do. I'd take that kinda deal without complaining too.
Well, I don't know who exactly is complaining about it.

However the bother is, a nation has exactly one option to truly count on to defend itself, it's citizens and it's interests: Itself.
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So we can call it safe !! another question, this law that Japan can't build advanced weapons and else, do you expect it to end ? and do you expect that Japan will build nukes ?!
I think that the law that holds Japan from building advanced weapons and else will eventually be changed. The current japanese leader has been pushing to change the law. In my opinion, it is only a matter of time before that law is changed.

I'm not sure about nukes.
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I think that the law that holds Japan from building advanced weapons and else will eventually be changed. The current japanese leader has been pushing to change the law. In my opinion, it is only a matter of time before that law is changed.

I'm not sure about nukes.
You're probably right about the advanced - read, offensive - weapons.

I highly doubt that Japan will develop nukes though.
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I think that the law that holds Japan from building advanced weapons and else will eventually be changed. The current japanese leader has been pushing to change the law. In my opinion, it is only a matter of time before that law is changed.

I'm not sure about nukes.
Japan's Constitution limits their defence spending to just 1% of their GDP, which granted is still a high number, it isn't enough to build or substain a massive military.

Besides if there's anything that would united the DPRK, ROK, PRC, and ROC it's a remilitarized Japan.

Nobody wants that.
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:43 AM   #10 (permalink)
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japan has good tech, and a comfortable numbers, but the JDF is really supposed to be a static defense force, to hold until the US arrives to bail them out
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Old 04-26-2007, 16:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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japan has good tech, and a comfortable numbers, but the JDF is really supposed to be a static defense force, to hold until the US arrives to bail them out
Maybe, but with hard-working US defence forces it’s likely that the if tensions will rise further that the Japanese would get a stronger army to take over some tasks of the US in the area.

The same reason was used during the Korean War to change the law and transform the police force into armed forces.
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Japan's Constitution limits their defence spending to just 1% of their GDP, which granted is still a high number, it isn't enough to build or substain a massive military.

Besides if there's anything that would united the DPRK, ROK, PRC, and ROC it's a remilitarized Japan.

Nobody wants that.
The japanese leader and certain elements of the Japanese government are all in favor of changing their constitution. The generation that experienced war and are against nukes, weapons are going to die out while a younger generation that could be more agreeable to beef up their military takes charge.

Isn't the Japanese military spending like that only because of it being a precedent. I don't think it is part of the constitution to limit spending.
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The japanese leader and certain elements of the Japanese government are all in favor of changing their constitution. The generation that experienced war and are against nukes, weapons are going to die out while a younger generation that could be more agreeable to beef up their military takes charge.

Isn't the Japanese military spending like that only because of it being a precedent. I don't think it is part of the constitution to limit spending.
Maybe so, I recall reading that soemwhere, but can't find a link.

Technically Japan isn't allowed to have a military. The JSDF is a de facto extension of the naitonal police service, at least in name. In fact the Japanese never use the terms for "military", "army", "navy", or"air force" in official references.

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Old 04-27-2007, 00:58 AM   #14 (permalink)
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In regards to East Asian responses to a Japanese militarization, I'm not so sure that South Korea would be so alarmed. Despite historical precedents, I don't think Japan holds the same intentions that it did prior to the Second World War. Both South Korea and Japan have the same strategic considerations in the theater. That is, North Korean aggression and the rapid modernization of China's economy and military.

Any Japanese militarization wouldn't be to complete old imperial machinations, but to be able to compete against the Chinese threat. Japan might have a fairly advanced 'military' now - at least in regards to what they field technologically - but China not only is superior to it numerically, but in some areas is also technological superiority (namely, on land), and all the while China rapidly develops elsewhere (aeronautical industry and naval industry included).
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