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Old 10-08-2003, 22:36 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I don't see any proof of the fact that those pictures were taken after the report about the engine snags.

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Old 10-08-2003, 22:43 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Eh, may be bcoz you are in denial??

Its a fact that these Su-30MK-1's flew in Chennai Airshow.It has been reported all over the media.

Its a very publicised show, with 1000's of people watching it over the beach.

All these things make it credible than Musharaff's claims that Pakistan just gives moral support to Kashmiri Terrorists.

So what more do you need?
A flight ticket to visit Pune AB ??:D

P.s : Chennai airshow was held on Sep 4. chek your article Date.

Also check out the links from ACIG...
http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_234.shtml

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Old 10-08-2003, 22:53 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Eh, may be bcoz you are in denial??

Its a fact that these Su-30MK-1's flew in Chennai Airshow.It has been reported all over the media.

Its a very publicised show, with 1000's of people watching it over the beach.

All these things make it credible than Musharaff's claims that Pakistan just gives moral support to Kashmiri Terrorists.

So what more do you need?
A flight ticket to visit Pune AB ??:D

P.s : Chennai airshow was held on Sep 4. chek your article Date.

Also check out the links from ACIG...
http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_234.shtml
Okay, well maybe not the entire fleet was grounded, only a few were kept air-worthy.

I'm just dealing with you Indians as you deal with others. Denial experts, you are.

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Old 10-08-2003, 22:58 PM   #19 (permalink)
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NEW DELHI SEPT. 5. The only complete squadron of India's frontline Sukhoi-30 fighters has been grounded following detection of "nicks'' in the engine blades. The Indian Air Force wants the defective parts replaced free of cost but the manufacturers are reluctant because the warranty period has expired.
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Okay, well maybe not the entire fleet was grounded, only a few were kept air-worthy.
I'm just dealing with you Indians as you deal with others. Denial experts, you are.
:w00t there it goes....article's down the drain as well the necessity to have this discussion.

And regarding we being "Denial Experts", seriously we learnt it from you guys. You are just providing moral support to those terrorists and yeah Kashmiris wanted to accede with Pakistan in 1948, 1965 and 1971. :LOL
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Old 10-08-2003, 23:06 PM   #20 (permalink)
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:w00t there it goes....article's down the drain as well the necessity to have this discussion.

And regarding we being "Denial Experts", seriously we learnt it from you guys. You are just providing moral support to those terrorists and yeah Kashmiris wanted to accede with Pakistan in 1948, 1965 and 1971. :LOL
Okay, and what does Kashmir have to do with this? You just love to ***** about Kashmir every chance you get, don't you?

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Old 10-08-2003, 23:10 PM   #21 (permalink)
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May be thats bcoz Pakistanis are so short sighted that they cannot relate anything with out Kashmir being mentioned. Let it be the UN or a strip dance in Detroit!

So I thot of giving fair examples to compare.

Anyway, sorry abt that, You've been nice and fair to me in PDF and i will extend the same.
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Old 10-08-2003, 23:16 PM   #22 (permalink)
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May be thats bcoz Pakistanis are so short sighted that they cannot relate anything with out Kashmir being mentioned. Let it be the UN or a strip dance in Detroit!

So I thot of giving fair examples to compare.

Anyway, sorry abt that, You've been nice and fair to me in PDF and i will extend the same.
You're bringing up the Kashmir issue with the wrong person, I am all for just converting the LOC into the International Border and calling it quits. It won't affect me in any way, its been going on for too long.

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Old 10-08-2003, 23:36 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Yes, i know that, hence my above post!

I guess we'r aspiring for something that will never happen in our life time :cry
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Sukhoi jets for India flagged off


Moscow Oct. 16. A new batch of Su-30MKI multi-role jets, the latest variant of Russia's Sukhoi series joining the Indian Air Force, was today flagged off by the Air Chief Marshal, S. Krishnaswami, from an airfield in Siberia.

The Air Chief flagged off two jets aboard huge Antonov cargo planes from the airfield of Irkut Aircraft Corporation, which manufactured the fighters.

Eight more Sukhoi multi-role jets of MKI modification are to be flown to India by year-end.

The Air Chief, on a week-long visit to Russia, interacted with the Irkut Aircraft Corporation officials. The Su-30MKI fighters have devastating capabilities to attack targets on land and in the sea. — PTI

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Old 10-26-2003, 11:07 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I think India and Pakistan need to sort out their problems.
They both keep spending billions (!) of dollars on arms, while the same money can be aimed at getting their people out of poverty.
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Old 10-26-2003, 13:27 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Only a socialist would believe that Government handing out money would take people out of poverty. The only way to get people out of poverty is to create a system were private property rights are protected and allow people to create buisnesses and let the people trade without Government interferance.

India needs to protect itself against 2 Brutal Dictatorships, I would hardly consider their defense expenditures a bad place to put there money.
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Especially when one of those dictatorships is being supplied by the United States.
As far as I know, the relationship between India and China are better off than they are with Pakistan. For example the last war they had with China was in 1962, while the last few wars they had with Pakistan were after that.
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Old 10-26-2003, 13:43 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Only a socialist would believe that Government handing out money would take people out of poverty.
Did I say that their government should hand out money?
Poverty eradication can be done in many different ways, they could perhaps build more schools, improve medical facilities and create better unemplyment benefits.
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Did I say that their government should hand out money?
Poverty eradication can be done in many different ways, they could perhaps build more schools, improve medical facilities and create better unemplyment benefits.
You just proved my point. What you are discribing is "handing out" money. Tell me why should a productive worker be penilized for being productive and an unproductive worker be rewarded for being unproductive. This would not get rid of poverty.

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Especially when one of those dictatorships is being supplied by the United States.
As far as I know, the relationship between India and China are better off than they are with Pakistan. For example the last war they had with China was in 1962, while the last few wars they had with Pakistan were after that.
It's been decades since we have sold them military technology. We havn't even given them their F-16's they bought.

I would hardly consider the United States as supplying Pakistan.
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You just proved my point. What you are discribing is "handing out" money. Tell me why should a productive worker be penilized for being productive and an unproductive worker be rewarded for being unproductive. This would not get rid of poverty.


please reiterate where in this post
"They both keep spending billions (!) of dollars on arms, while the same money can be aimed at getting their people out of poverty."
i said that the indian govenrment should hand out money to the poor?


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It's been decades since we have sold them military technology. We havn't even given them their F-16's they bought.

I would hardly consider the United States as supplying Pakistan.
they still however retained most of the military equipment you supplied them with. also they retained a large number of Stinger missiles from when you were supplying them to the afghans. now the us government is quite worried about those missiles falling into the wrong hands.
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