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That would mean further delays.On a serious note, if this report is indeed true and the Russians dont play ball, what other engine options does the JF-17 have, and what are their performance estimates?
Snecma,GE?
The Hindu : National : Russia blocks sale of Chinese jets to Pakistan
On a serious note, if this report is indeed true and the Russians dont play ball, what other engine options does the JF-17 have, and what are their performance estimates?Russia blocks sale of Chinese jets to Pakistan
Vladimir Radyuhin
The JF-17 fighter aircraft have been powered by Russian RD-93 engines
New Delhi, Moscow to sign pact on 5th generation fighter plane
Defence Minister Sergei Ivanov to visit India
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MOSCOW: Russia has blocked the sale of Chinese fighter planes with Russian engines to Pakistan.
"We've denied China the right to supply its JF-17 fighter aircraft powered by Russian RD-93 engines to third countries, asking it to sign an end-user certificate for the engines," said Colonel-General Anatoly Mazurkevich, head of the Defence Ministry's International Cooperation Department.
President Pervez Musharraf said last year that the JF-17s would be flying in Pakistani skies by March 2007. Islamabad plans to acquire 150 JF-17s, known in China as FC-1. China has bought 100 Klimov RD-93 engines from Russia for installing on JF-17s, with an option to contract another 400 engines.
Speaking to Indian and Russian journalists ahead of a visit to India by Russia's Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minister Sergei Ivanov on January 22, Col.-Gen. Mazurkevich confirmed that India and Russia are shortly to sign accords to jointly develop and produce a 5th generation fighter plane and a multi-role transport aircraft.
India is expected to announce during Mr. Ivanov's visit its choice between two Russian concepts of a multi-role stealth fighter plane of the 5th generation that the Russian aviation majors, Sukhoi and MIG, presented to the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) last year.
The aircraft deals will be discussed when Mr. Ivanov co-chairs with Defence Minister A.K. Antony the 6th meeting of the Indo-Russian Inter-Governmental Commission for Military-Technical Cooperation. Ahead of the commission meeting on January 24 Mr. Ivanov will fly to Bangalore to visit the HAL and the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO), as well as some leading Information and Technology companies, and meet business people.
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On a lighter note, Neo should be very interested in this report.
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Hmmm...
That would mean further delays.On a serious note, if this report is indeed true and the Russians dont play ball, what other engine options does the JF-17 have, and what are their performance estimates?
Snecma,GE?
And performance shortfall, if they have to go with a Chinese turbojet in between.
Chinese options, WS-13 iirc.
Karmani Vyapurutham Dhanuhu
My bow is stretched for its task
Actually, just wait for several months. China is obliged to deliver first batch of FC1s to Pakistan this year. Let's see what they gonna do.
Sounds very odd to me - the Russians have known for years that the Pakistanis are going to want JF-17s with these engines, and they're only now making it clear they can't have them? Sounds wierd - maybe this is just a negotiating tactic to bump the price up?
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India had been pressuring the Russians to block this sale ever since it was announced... Love the Russians!Originally Posted by pdf27
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Atleast wait for it to be confirmed will ya!India had been pressuring the Russians to block this sale ever since it was announced... Love the Russians!
Russians are very smart, that's for sure. India will have to argue with them for years to come.
Added later: India's MRCA contract is the real focus.
Last edited by wp2000; 22 Jan 07, at 12:57. Reason: extra point
Not just the MRCA contract, there are supposedly several Brahmos type tech deals with Russia, and these are true joint ventures, in that they are tech development, ranging from naval RCS reduction , to ABM radars etc.
India is basically asking the Russians to not supply Pak. which is an unstated requirement of the Indo-Russian arrangement.
Last edited by Archer; 22 Jan 07, at 14:03.
Karmani Vyapurutham Dhanuhu
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That Russia would block the sale of engines has been known for 2 years now and posted here several times, look up the archives, this is not surprising.
This might force Pakistan to acquire something that is not junk.
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They are getting J10s arent they?But then again theres the question of AL31FNs....
Nope they aren't. But even if they did, J10's powered by the Russian engines again.
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Like what typhoon?rafale?gripen?
Dont think so.
Dont tell me JSF(as I have heard claimed quite a few times from other forums) or I might just die of laughter!
Some more F-solasLike what typhoon?rafale?gripen?
Dont think so.
Dont tell me JSF(as I have heard claimed quite a few times from other forums) or I might just die of laughter!
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