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Reply With QuoteYes, they will execute their counter air drill, destroy their own choppers, drink couple litters of vodka (they would think that they are glitching), and then commit suicide =)Originally Posted by GGTharos
Dmitriy, I'm completly agree with you.
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Yes, they will execute their counter air drill, destroy their own choppers, drink couple litters of vodka (they would think that they are glitching), and then commit suicide =)
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Glad to hear that.
Can someone provide me numbers of how many lift the Mi-28's wings provide.
I know that in horizontal flight 25-30% lift of total lift is provided by the wing s of the Mi-24.
Yes, they will execute their counter air drill, destroy their own choppers, drink couple litters of vodka (they would think that they are glitching), and then commit suicide =)
I think you had a little too much vodka
'People' don't have to admit to anything. Right now the Mi-28 is the only Russian heli to 'catch up' with Apache - it is probably better in some things, likely worse in some others.
It remains to be seen wether it will be a hangar queen like the Apache - russians had time to design that out, so good luck to that
Thanks, but actually KA-50 is equal to Apache, MI-28 boots KA-50 easily which means that Apache is not so good. But actually Apache is combat proved...'People' don't have to admit to anything. Right now the Mi-28 is the only Russian heli to 'catch up' with Apache - it is probably better in some things, likely worse in some others.
It remains to be seen wether it will be a hangar queen like the Apache - russians had time to design that out, so good luck to that
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No it isn't. Who told you that?
Apache is much better in terms of avionics.
I think because Mi-28 has newer construction it probably does better than Apache in a number of departments, but Apache electronics are likely better.MI-28 boots KA-50 easily which means that Apache is not so good. But actually Apache is combat proved...
As I understand it, the Apache has better avionics leading to better sensor data, weapon accuracy and automation of flight systems.
Thanks its its very accurate weaponary as well as its ability to detect and automatically identify then destroy targets as a tank killer the Apache Longbow with a load of Hellfires still has no peer.
In other areas the Mi-28 and KA-50 would probably do just as well or perhaps better. As you stated though the Apache has a very robust battle record, thus far the KA-50 still has to prove itself, war has a funny way of highlighting ever imaginable fault with a peice of kit.
Sorry i dont have information about it
In 2001 on comparing flights of Apache and Night Hunter in Sweeden MI-28N showed itself a lot better than Apache and Sweedish had to admit that 28 is better.No it isn't. Who told you that?
Apache is much better in terms of avionics.
I think because Mi-28 has newer construction it probably does better than Apache in a number of departments, but Apache electronics are likely better.
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Well The Mi-28 can carry more weapon load than a Apache.
He can carry full load of 16 ataka or shturm AND 40 S-8.
Plus it's gun is more powerfull than the Apache's one.
And don't forget that the program suffered from funding problems and the fact that it was frozen.
Without those problems they could have upgradet it a couple times and then it would have been even better.
Like you stated that the comache was a very good heli but didn't entered in the air force because of the money, I can say that the lack of fundings prevented the 28 of being develloped in it's best version/ upgrades
That program was frozen for more than 20 years.If it wasn't frozen than there would be a even better variant of it today.
If we are comparing the basic 28 versus basic Apache.
Then it will be deffinatly the 28 who wins: larger payload, better defence and surviveability.
The Apache may have better avionics (basic vs. basic), but with avionics alone you won't come far, if you can be shot out of the sky by an old man's gun.
Versus a tank it may be very effective But that's not a real battle.
So has the 28 or even the 24 no problems of shooting at a tank from a distance.
The big difference is like a soldier with and without a bulletfree jacket. (apart from the avionics)
Both MI-28 Night Hunter and MI-24 Hind doesn't have any prodlem in a combat situations.
Here's the proof:
MI-28N
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...459953&q=Mi-28
MI-24H
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...608913&q=MI-24
By watching those videos I'd say thet MI-28 and MI-24 are better than even KA-50
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...875241&q=KA-50
Those MIL's babies can handle a lot and 24th handeled almost every war since the end of 1970s.
28th will handle the same as his bro did, the only reason betwen them (why 24th fought and 28 didn't?) is that 28th project was frozen shortly after start, 24th went out later and only in the middle of 90th Russia had unlocked 28th Mil and wormed it with its completion.
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Indeed the Mi-24 served in olmost 30 conflicts.
About the Ka-50 I have to disagree, cause the Ka-50 is still a very powerfull craft.
Neverless the Mi-24 and the 28 are olso very good machines.
They all have a place in my heart.
The MiL's ofcource can handle much more payload.
It's just butyfull to see them shooting all those 57 and 80 mm rockets, and especially the Shturm or Ataka
Ka-50 and Mi-28 it is helicopters a little different purpose. Mi-28 is the front helicopter intended for support of armies. Ka-50 suits for small operations, such as anti-guerrilla actions, etc.
Pretty true, actually MIL's family is all made for the front aviation accept MI-8 which is most transport helo but still one of the most popular transporters in the front lines of the battles...
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