Blademaster

Not if the Sukhois are equipped with western avionics which the IAF birds are.

Sinister

Why the heck do some of you mention Australia , they are not in ASIA.

Without counting RuAf , USN , USAF

pier1 would be InAF , JASDF , IAF
pier2 would be PLAAF , ROKAF

sohamsri

firstly.... to clear israel's location :-

Israel is located in the Asian continent, but because of political problems with the Arab countries that falls in Asia too, Israel is considered a European country.
Israel officially is recognized as an European country,although it is located in Asia, it falls southern Lebanon,Syria,and Turkey,where Turkey is the border of Asia and Europe,more precisely the Bosfor.


now about the air force .... i think :-

1.israel
2.india
3.russia
4.china
5.s.korea
6.UAE
7.pakistan
and others...

agreement or disagreement ??

reasons :-

israel has licence to manufacture f-16s and they make full use of it... they upload it with high tech weaponry.... which is as good as the americans..

they also have the AESA radar technology and if india agrees to buy mig 35s then israel has agreed to fit them with its AESAs... making the indian migs better than even the russian ones..but that is a different topic on the whole.

2. as blademaster specifies the indian sukhois fitted with western avionics are better than the chinese sukhois.

india has sukhoi MKIs which are better than chinese MKKs

one thing though, if reports about the development of chinese stealth bombers like the b-2s is true.... then PLAAF should come at number 2

Daily Lark: Xian H-8 Chinese Stealth bomber

about pakistan.... they dont even have a BVR capable fighter....so....

glyn

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Daily Lark: Xian H-8 Chinese Stealth bomber

The link is puerile gibberish. Can anyone make sense of it?

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sohamsri

thats why i said i'm not sure dude.
i dont think it is...but there are many sites which suggest its true

Sinister

No glyn , all I see is a B-2 Spirit hehe

That would look a bit better

glyn

sohamsri

chill out man, why are you getting so serious about such a small thing ??i don mean any offence.
calling someone dude does'nt make me feel big + i know you are older than me.

Tronic

revival of the pissing contests...?


Yes they do. F-16C/Ds.

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sohamsri

oh yeah.... sorry.

they got them recently.

glyn

Deltacamelately

You are Nonsence Personified.
Now buggeroff.

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sohamsri

i am sorry sirs. i did not know you gentlemen will get so offended if i tell you to chill out.

i'll stay formal from now on.

you cant blame me, i'm just a class 11 student who is vastly interestd in tne field of defence. i just want to increase my knowledege in these matters and share what i know.

please excuse me for my language.

TUSAS1

Turkey is technically in Asia as well...so I would add the Turkish Air Force into the Top 5 Asian Air Forces....

Air force Combat Aircraft Inventory Summary (by 2016)

230 x F-16 CCIP
30 F-16 50/52+
52 x F-4E 2020 Terminator (very significantly modernized by IAI for $0.69 billion with enhanced air-to-ground capabilities)
71 x F-4E 2020 Terminator (Modernized by TAI for air-to-air capabilities)
32 x RF-4E Phantom II (Modernized for Intelligence)
44 x F-5 2000 (Significantly modernized by IAI with further unknown enhanced capabilities)
100 x F-35 (Firm order, to be manufactured in Turkey)
150+ x Unknown 5th Generation Aircraft (authorisation and budget granted, most probably Turkey will join Eurofighter Consortium for Trache 3, negotiations continuing with EADS and Turkey)

Current inventory/ Future Authorised orders and structure of the TuAF



The TuAF currently operates 230 F-16s (See Above Table of Turkish F-16 with Serial Numbers, Note: 8 Block 30 and 2 Block 40, Attrition losses) distributed in 11 squadrons, all F-16s squadrons are AMRAAM/Sidewinder capable, some dedicated ground attack squadrons with LGB, Maverick AGM-65G, LANTIRN pods, one squadron is dedicated for SEAD with HARMs.
Structure

Ankara Akinci Main Jet Base:
141 Block-40 Fighter
142 Block-30 Fighter
143 Block-30 OCU

Merzifon Main Jet Base:
151 Block-50 SEAD
152 Block-50 Fighter

Bandirma Main Jet Base:
161 Block-40 LANTIRN
162 Block-40 Fighter

Diyarbakir Main Jet Base:
181 Block-40 LANTIRN
182 Block-40 Fighter

Balikesir Main Jet Base:
191 Block-50 Ground Attack/Fighter
192 Block-50 Fighter

TuAF also currently operates 52 F-4E/2020 Terminators which are dedicated to air-ground with Popeye-1/2, LGB, MAvericks and LITENING-III, plus 80 F-4E/RF-4E used as Interceptor and for Recce purposes...The Turkish Air Force approved the further upgrade of a further 48 F-4Es and 18 RF-4E, thus bringing them up to F-4E/2020 standards.

Structure

Eskisehir Main Jet Base:
111. F-4E/2020 Terminator
112. F-4E Interceptor
113. RF-4E Recce with LOROP pods

Malatya Main Jet Base:
171. F-4E/2020 Terminator
172. F-4E Interceptor
173 RF-4E Recce with LOROP pods


TuAF also currently operates 7 KC-135R tankers to support these squadrons

TRANSPORT FORCE

7 x C-130E Hercules (being extensively modernised with Full Glass Cockpits etc)
6 x C-130B Hercules (with ELINT/SIGINT equipment)
19 x C-160T Transall
50 x CN 235-100M
10 x Airbus A-400M (Firm Order)

UNMANNED AERIAL INVENTORY

20 x TIHA MALE Attack/Surveillance (Indigenous UAV similar to US Predator, TIHA-B armed with 4 laser guided missiles)
40 x Heron MALE Attack/Surveillance UAV (1000/3300 km)
107 x Harpy Attack UAV (500 km)
2 I x GNAT Surveillance UAV (500 km)

HELICOPTER INVENTORY

20 x AS 532UL Cougar Mk1 (14 SAR + 6 CSAR)
81 x Bell UH-1H Iroquois (SAR/ECM/Utility)- To be modernized


TuAF Training is done in two different base:

Izmir Cigli Main Jet Base:
SF-260 Basic Flight Training
T-37B/C Basic Jet Training
T-38A Advance Jet Training

Konya Main Jet Base:
131. F4E OCU
132. F-4E and F-5/2000 Aggressor-Tactics
133. F-5/2000 LIFT for F-16s

TRAINING AIRCRAFT INVENTORY

69 x T-38A Talon (received structural upgrade, to be modernized)
61 x Cessna T-37B/C (received structural upgrade)
38 x Aermacchi SF-260D
26 x T-41D Mescalero
0 x KAI KT-1 (40 on order to replace T-37s)
Also, currently the development of both Turbo-prop and Turbo-fan engine trainer aircraft are continuing at Turkish Aerospace Industries. It is planned that they will enter service in 2012.

TuAF Air Defense Force

Long Range/High altitute

72 Nike Hercules(about to be retired, Patriot/Arrow-II is considered for future)

Patriot/S-300/S-400- There is negotiations with Russian and US companies for an anti-balistic missile defence shield (It will consist of a minimum of 4 systems). Russia is the favoured as they have offered co-production and tech-transfer.

Medium Range/Altitute
24 I-HAWK-PIP3 launchers with MPQ-64 Sentinel Radars/Konsberg Fire Control Centers
Indigenous system in development

Low Altitute/Short Range
80 x Rapier Lauchers/37 Blindfire Fire Control radars upgraded to B1X version, new 800 Rapier Mk-2 missiles started to be assembled in Turkey.

32 x Aselsan KMS, each carries 4 ready to fire Stingers-RPM and 12.7mm machine gun for close range...

35mm/40mm short range AA guns supported by D-XI Radar/FLIR weapon control platforms...

Further procurement.....

As of today the following systems were ordered/secured via FMS and Turkish SSM procurement contracts:

* 127 AIM-9X

* 200 JHMCS

* 200 AN/AVS-9

* 213 AIFF

* 205 Link-16

* 50 CBU-105

* 54 AGM-154A-1

* 50 AGM-154C

* 50 AGM-84K

* 20 AselPod

* Tubitak of Turkey manufactured Paveway-IIT LGBs and new GPS/INS kits

* 60 AN/ALQ-178V[5]+ SPEWS-II for B50s (To be revised to 53+)

As of today the following systems were guaranteed via DSCA/Congressioanl approval and waiting FMS orders and Turkish SSM procurement tenders:

* 180 AN/APG-68[V]9 (To be reduced to max. 174)

* 105 AIM-9X

* 200 GBU-31

* 200 GBU-38

* 50 CBU-103

* 4+2 LOROP-IR Pod

* 2 SAR Pod

* 16+4 Escort Jammer Pod

As of today the following systems were listed via DSCA and LLIs were ordered, awaiting final evaluation and FMS order:

* AIM-120C-5/7/D

* AGM-88B3/C/D

* AGM-84L

* HTS(E) or HTS R7

* Second batch of AGM-154A-1/C

As of today the following systems were under evaluation:

* EGBU-10/12

* AGM-65G2/H/J/K/X upgrade

* Long Shot kits

* JASSM

Procurement of joint F-4E/F-16 integrated 22 Litening-III was also cancelled. Turkish Aselpod (and may be further direct procurement of 20 Sniper or Litening-IIIs for B50s) is onstream for B40s. There are also plans for upgrading all LANTIRN equiped Turkish vipers to LANTIRN-ER.

With the PO-III programs Block 40s will be able to perform Stand-off Strike, CAS, Anti-tank, Tactical Reconnaissance and Maritime Attack roles, and Block 50s will be able to perform complete SEAD/DEAD as well as 5th generation BVR air interception duties for both.


I think this is a significant force...don't you reckon? And by the way....the above acquisitions etc were decided before the decision for the $160 billion (no mistake) overhaul of the Turkish Armed Forces (TAF). The new strategy of the TAF is to reduce the Man power but add the high technology and increase the ability for rapid deployment.

Stan

Blimey Glyn ..

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