Aryan

Thank you mods for taking swift action against this mr_hitler baboon

Mr-Hitler

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berry580

Their satellites may not yet be able to, not their UAV can

Both UAVs (ASN-104 and ASN-105) are capable of transmitting imagery data to the ground station in real-time.
http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/uav/asn104_105.asp

ajaybhutani

so that means China 150 advanced aircrafts in their arsenal .. and by the way other fighters do they have is there anythin apart frm mig 19 and mig 21 clones..?


And about india it has
1. 40-50 M2K with another squadron to be delivered in a years time(apart from plans to purchase another 130 i m putting this to )
2. approx.. 66 MIG29 with helmet mounted sights R77's and so on.
3. already 10MK's and 30MKI's with another 10 to be delivered by end of this year.

And that goes to >150 by the year end and with PHALCONS to be delivered in 2005 what advantage Chineese AF has?

hammer

the rest 130 MKI's are gonna be built under a TOT by HAL in India , not purchased . and i dont think the chinese have those many sukhois.

oops my mistake . its M2ks right?! and when are they going to buy these planes ?! after they get outdated?!

Jay

I think he's talking about Mirage 2K's from France.

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ajaybhutani

yes i did mean Miragee 2000.
I just want to make a point that China has no edge agains india in AF. rather PHALCONS give indians an edge.

hammer

they sure would . but what i am not sure is if just 3 phalcons are enough to do the job.

ajaybhutani

About the future chineese do ahve a good manufacturing base. and can produce a lot of aircrafts. maybe upto 40-50 a year if we consider different models.
But yes so can india .In case the M2K deal goes thru.
we have 14 MKI's per year.Indians decided to finish prodution by 2014 and thus 14 per year.

By 2008 some 10-15 LCA's
and some 15-20 M2K's(they would love to have al M2k's by 2010 ar at least 2014-5



so nearly similar production ..And we can bet the way indians churned out MKI from the russians to contain chineese advantage.They will make sure that they dont fall down in number of good aircrafts.

And yes just somethin i wanna know.. how good is Jaguar with the upgrades its getting esp wrt chineese aircrafts.
And definitely indains have an edge in
1. avionics as they choose the best amongst french indain israeli and russian.
2. PHALCONS
3. they get the technology from Rissians which even Russians dont have in their force.
4. Air fired version of Brahmos in line ..to be ready in 2-3 years time (shall be integrated with MKI)and shall be much better than what chineese have or will have in their arsenal by then.Its an edge as Brahmos is good against land targets as well because of its speed.
5. Joint development Fifth generation fighter with russians. I give it a better chance against teh Chineese JXX as russians already ahve technology demonstrators in the form of S37 and MIG1.42/44( whatever.)
6. Plans to develop ultra long range A2A missile jointly with Russians.(there are reports that they are thinking about it.).
7. Chineese do ahve an edge in Aerospace industry presently as many may believe. But our LCA is not bad either.At least it does use good technologies even in case it dsnt turn out very good.But joint development of fighter with russians shall revert the chineese supremacy in this too.



I understand that i dont know much about the chineese AF ..and would be glad if u all can improve/correct upon what all i mentioned.


Regards
Ajay

ajaybhutani

3 phalcons are nough to be used for roudn the **** survellance of an important
region. Assumeing that each one works for 8 hours a day min.
they surely can create teh difference. Thoug not like how US uses it.

ajaybhutani

http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/sep/25iaf.htm
can anyone name the other five with the capability
they can be from Us UK russia china japan france .UI dunno which one dsnt have it.

Aryaramnaes

How is JAPAN ahead of India? Japan has a very mediocre mix of f1's to f4s with basic f-15s... Doesnt India have a better mix of planes including the MKI, Mig 29,Mirage to name a few....?

Aryaramnaes

Also Indian pilots have the second highest total of flight hours, around 246, USAF being the highest with 250.

ajaybhutani

if i m not mistaken they have AWACS.

Aryaramnaes

Yeah I just checked, they do. That gives them the edge I guess, but not for long... India is going to be getting the Phalcons system soon.