Top 5 Airforces Of Asia - Page 10

Tronic · 05-04-2008, 19:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TUSAS1

Well we were talking about the 650 Combat aircraft and 750 Helicopeters the Turkish Air Force will be acquiring under the $160 billion modernization plans, however, the forum somehow shifted into describing the deficiencies in the Turkish Land Forces.....

Well, a good read nevertheless. I had heard of training deficiencies in the Turkish army from some of my Turkish friends but never took it to be too serious. The situation seems bad, but then again, we're talking of conscripts. The regulars get better training, i.e. better then 9 rounds training, right?

TUSAS1 · 05-04-2008, 19:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tronic

Well, a good read nevertheless. I had heard of training deficiencies in the Turkish army from some of my Turkish friends but never took it to be too serious. The situation seems bad, but then again, we're talking of conscripts. The regulars get better training, i.e. better then 9 rounds training, right?

The professional soldiers get between 2 and 4.5 years training. I will not even attempt to criticize the professional soldiers. These soldiers are usually found in the Navy and Air Forces.

Thank fully, the concripts will also be more trained. The Chief of the General Staff has acknowledged the problem and it is currently being overhauled as we speak.

TUSAS1 · 05-04-2008, 20:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Big K

i was conscripted in 12 april 2004.

i was a gendarmerie and yes only 9 whole rounds including the aiming training and a run(1km)&shot exercise.

and i was in service only 6 months! btw, once my commanding NCO got angered to me because of my -extra-shiny boots.....

i was using a special boot wax which shines 2 times more than the rest of squad

my brother was regular infantry and he had a lot more than me as combat training.

but if i am not wrong theres some commando units and their training is much more intense...

There is a major difference between the Gendarmerie and the Turkish Army in both training and structure. The Gendarmerie could be considered as Military police with heavy weapons. Thus, I don't believe that the deficiencies in the Gendarmerie reflect the deficiencies in the Turkish Army.

I am 100% sure that NATO would not allow its second largest Army contingent to be in the state that the Gendarmerie is in. Turkish Army training is no different to its NATO counterparts. As part of NATO's interpolarity agreements this is evident.

I would also like to draw the attention of the forumers to the fact that Israeli Commando's are trained at the Bolu Dağ Komando School at the request of General Dan Halutz, Chief of the Israeli General Staff

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While the Israeli fighter plains have been conducting training flights in the Turkish airspace from the airbase in Konya, the Israeli commandos have been receiving snow training in Bolu mountains for some time. The military relations between the two countries are being supported by co-operation in the fields of defense industry and intelligence sharing against terrorism.
See Israel seeks an alliance with Turkey against Iran

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Israeli Army Chief Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz arrived in Turkey in a week. According to the Israeli officials the reason for the visit is to develop the dialogue and co-operation between Turkey and Israel. However the questions were similar to those of Americans. Iran, Syria and Iraq were the foremost priorities. The Israeli Army Chief further asked permission for training the Israeli commandos in Turkey’s Bolu and Hakkari mountains. Halutz said “our commandos cannot see snow, the whether in Israel is quite hot. If they can be trained in Turkey they would be ready for the winter conditions”. Turkey provides Israeli Air Force training opportunities in Konya Valley. The problem is why Israel wants to be ready for the mountain and winter circumstances? There is no cold neighboring country around Israel. The only places Israeli commandos could use their training are Turkey, Iran and Northern Iraq.
See JTW News - Targets are Iran and Syria

See KeHaber WebGlocal News (In Turkish)

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The Turkish Weekly journal claimed further revelations. In a December 27 article it said Halutz had asked permission for training Israeli commandos in Turkey's Bolu and Hakkari mountains. The magazine speculated that the Israeli request had to do with preparations for operations in northwestern Iran's mountainous territory. See Asia Times Online :: Middle East News, Iraq, Iran current affairs

gimini · 05-08-2008, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by vishv29

lets have a voting for top 5 airfroces of asia. here is my list:-

1) china ( very huge,200 flankers)

2)japan

3)isreal ( very modern )

4)south korea/saudi arabia

5)india ( huge,variety of some decent fighters like MKI's,Miraaz-2000-H,Mig-29 )

Top 5 Air Force in asia
1.China
2.India
3.Japan
4.S.Korea
5.Tiwan

Sumku · 05-08-2008, 16:23 PM

Taiwan? From where did Taiwan come here? and where is Russia?

Sinister · 05-08-2008, 16:57 PM

Most people would count the asian part of Russia's airfields and airforce when talking about asia and I don't think there is a lot there , and PLAAF is certainly not infront of Israel, Japan and India when will people learn that PLAAF is mostly outdated and very poorly trained..

gimini · 05-09-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sumku

Taiwan? From where did Taiwan come here? and where is Russia?

Russia in not part of Asia I Meaning its European Country
Think of Russia as an estan European country
Well twain has huge number of fighter jets brought from USA more then 150 F-14 & F-15

**Officer of Engineers** · 05-09-2008, 21:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinister

when will people learn that PLAAF is mostly outdated and very poorly trained..

Your info is out-dated. The late Cmdr Wang Wei is evidence that the PLA do practice with their kits a lot. Also, the oldest kit in active PLAAF service is the J-7, the MiG-21 - just like the Indians.

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Originally Posted by gimini

Russia in not part of Asia I Meaning its European Country
Think of Russia as an estan European country

Tell that to the Chinese when they were facing 45 Soviet Divisions and 1000+ aircrafts

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Originally Posted by gimini

Well twain has huge number of fighter jets brought from USA more then 150 F-14 & F-15

WTF?

Air Force - Taiwan

gimini · 05-10-2008, 08:07 AM

Can any one give exact number of fighter jets Taiwan has

GAU-8 · 05-10-2008, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gimini

Can any one give exact number of fighter jets Taiwan has

Hi Gimini,

Here's what the Global Security site has on the ROC AF:
Air Force - Taiwan

Here is what Scramble has on the ROC AF order of battle:Republic of China Air Force - Chung-Hua Kong Jun - Order of Battle, Maps, Squadrons, Badges, Photo's, Air bases, Database etc etc

Hope this helps.

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Sinister Regular Join Date: 03-12-08 Posts: 40	Most people would count the asian part of Russia's airfields and airforce when talking about asia and I don't think there is a lot there , and PLAAF is certainly not infront of Israel, Japan and India when will people learn that PLAAF is mostly outdated and very poorly trained..

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gimini New Member Join Date: 03-28-08 Location: Sri Lanka,Colombo Posts: 22 Country:	Can any one give exact number of fighter jets Taiwan has

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