troung

Since WW2 France has had some of the most important airplanes in the world (minus USSR/USA). From looking at combat records French planes have out preformed Russian fighters around the world, and pretty much broke even with American counterparts (IrAF Mirage F-1 vs. IRIAF F-4D/E). Generally nations that use both French and Russian planes prefer French ones due to better range, better avionics, weapons, comfort and range.


Fighters/Attackers they have built (I'll only name load outs for important users)

Rafale B as sold to France
RBE-2
1*30mm DEFA
MICA EM/IR
SCALP EG
APACHE
Exocet
Laser Guided Bombs

Mirage 2000-9 sold to UAE
RDY-2 radar
2*30mm DEFA
Black Shaheen
APACHE
Exocet
AS-30L
Laser Guided Bombs

Mirage 2000-5 Mk-2 sold to Greece
RDY-2 radar
2*30mm DEFA
MICA EM/IR
SCALP EG
APACHE
Exocet
AS-30L
Laser Guided Bombs

Mirage 2000-5E sold to Qatar and Taiwan.
RDY radar
2*30mm DEFA
MICA EM
Magic II

Mirage 2000E sold to Greece, India, Egypt, UAE, Peru
RDM radar
2*30mm DEFA
Super 530F/D
Magic II
R-73E (InAF)
ARMAT
Exocet
AS-30L
Laser Guided Bombs

Mirage 2000D as sold to France
Antelope 5
Magic II
SCALP EG
APACHE
ARMAT
AS-30L
Laser Guided Bombs

Mirage 2000C sold to France
RDI radar
2*30mm DEFA
Super 530F/D
Magic II

Mirage F-1EQ-6/7 sold to Iraq
Cyrano IV-M
2*30mm DEFA
Super 530D
Magic I/II
Exocet
ARMAT
Kh-29L (AS-14)
AS-30L
Laser Guided Bombs

Mirage F-1EQ-5 sold to Iraq
Agave radar
2*30mm DEFA
Magic I
Exocet
ARMAT
AS-30L
Laser Guided Bombs

Mirage F-1ED as sold to Libya
Cyrano IV
2*30mm DEFA
R-530 EM
Magic I

Mirage F-1E sold to Spain, Qatar, Ecuador, Morocco and Jordan
Cyrano IV (Spanish/Qataries models have IV-M)
2*30mm DEFA
Super 530F/D (minus Spain, morocco and Ecuador)
Magic I/II
Python 3 (Ecuador)
AIM-9P-4 (Spain)
AS-30L
Laser Guided Bombs

Mirage F-1CT as supplied to France
Cyrano IV-M
1*30mm DEFA
Super 530D
Magic II
ARMAT
Exocet
AS-30L
Laser Guided Bombs (basically the only PGM it operationally uses)

Mirage F-1CK as sold to Kuwait
Cyrano IV-M
2*30mm DEFA
Super 530D
Magic II

Mirage F-1CG as sold to Greece
Cyrano IV
2*30mm DEFA
AIM-9J/P

Mirage F-1CZ as sold to South Africa
Cyrano IV
R-530 EM/IR
Python 3
Magic I

Mirage F-1AD as sold to Libya
Aida
2*30mm
Magic I

Mirage F-1AZ as sold to South Africa
Aida
2*30mm
Python 3
Magic I
TORGOS
RAPTOR
AS-30L
AS-20L
Laser Guided Bombs

Mirage 50EV
Cyrano IV-M
2*30mm DEFA
Super 530F/D (not used operationally)
Magic II
Exocet
AS-30L
Laser Guided Bombs

Mirage 5EF in Pak service
Griffo M or FLIR
2*30mm DEFA
Magic II
AS-30L
Laser Guided Bombs

Mirage 5PA3 in Pak service
Agave
2*30mm DEFA
Magic II
Exocet

Mirage IIICJ as sold to the IDF/AF
Cyrano II
2*30mm DEFA
Shafir II/III
AIM-9B/G/H

Mirage IIIO as sold second hand the Pakistan
Griffo M
2*30mm DEFA
Magic II
AIM-9P/L

Mirage IIIO as sold to Australia
Cyrano II
2*30mm DEFA
R-530 EM/IR
AIM-9H

Mirage IIIEP as sold to Pakistan
Cyrano II
2*30mm
R-530 EM/IR
AIM-9B (now have Magic II)

more later............. (just ask me on ones I left out).........



French built jets fighters have seen more combat (on a winning side) then many other nations jets..........


1956 Suez Campaign (IDF used Ourgan, Mystere)

1965 India Pakistan war (InAF used Mystere)

1965 Israel Syrian water conflict (IDF used Mirage III and Mystere)

1967 6 Day War (IDF used Mirage III, Mystere, Ourgan)

War of Attrition (IDF used Mirage III/5, Mystere)

1971 India Pakistan War (PAF used Mirage IIIEP, InAF used Mystere)

1973 Yom Kipper War (IDF used Mirage III/5, EAF used Mirage 5ED)

El Salvador Civil War (Ourgan)

Greek Turk conflict (Greece has had the Mirage 2000 and Mirage F-1CG)

Pak Russian fights over Afghanistan (Pak had Mirage IIIEP and Mirage 5PA)

South Africa vs. Angola (SAAF had Mirage F-1AZ/CZ)

Libya vs. Chad (Libya had Mirage 5ED and Mirage F-1AD/ED while France had the Mirage F-1C/CR)

1982 Falklands (FAA used Mirage IIIEA, Mirage 5J and SuE)

Iran Iraq War (IRIAF used SuE and Mirage F-1EQ-2/4/5/6/7)

Honduras vs. Nicaragua (Honduras had the Super Mystere)

Iraqi invasion of Kuwait (Kuwaitis had Mirage F-1CK Iraqis had Mirage F-1EQ)

Desert Storm (Coalition had Mirage 2000C, Mirage F-1CK/EDA/CR Iraq had Mirage F-1EQ/CK)

Venezuelan coup (Mirage 50EVs shot at government targets)

Bosnia (France had Mirage 2000C/D)

Aegean 1995 (Greece used a Mirage 2000EGM to shoot down a Turkish F-16D)

Cenepa Valley (Peru had Mirage 2000P, Mirage 5P and Ecuador had the Mirage F-1EJ)

Kosovo (France had Mirage 2000C/D)

Kargil 1999 (InAF had the Mirage 2000EH/BH)

Afghanistan 2001-now (France has the Mirage 2000D and has sent Rafales to fly "CAPs")


Possible new customers/offered to......

Saudi Arabia- offered Rafale
Singapore- offered Rafale
Kuwait- offered Rafale
India- Mirage 2000-5 Mk-2 and Rafale
Pakistan- Mirage 2000-5 Mk-2
Philippines- Mirage 2000E or Mirage F-1CT


Stuff they have shot down...........

Mirage 2000
F-16D (HAF)

Mirage F-1
F-14A (IraF)
F-4D/E/RF (IrAF)
F-5E/F (IrAF)
MiG-23MLD (SAAF)
MiG-21MF/Bis (SAAF)
Su-22M-3K (FAE)
Mi-24/25 (KAF/SAAF)
Mi-8/17 (KAF/SAAF)

Mirage III/5
MiG-21 (IDF/PAF/SAAF)
MiG-19 (IDF)
MiG-17 (IDF)
Su-20/22 (IDF)
Su-7 (IDF/PAF)
Hunter (IDF/PAF)
Canberra (PAF)

Mystere
F-104 (InAF)
F-86 (InAF)
MiG-17 (IDF)
MiG-15 (IDF)
Mi-8 (FAH)


SuE
Mi-8
A lot of ships and tankers : N


Stuff that has shot them down...

F-14A (Mirage F-1)
F-4D/E (Mirage F-1)
MiG-21 (Mirage IIICJ)
Hunter (Mirage IIICJ)
MiG-17 (Mirage IIICJ)

bigross86

Little known fact, the IDF used P-51 Mustangs with special tools (and sometimes even their props and wings) to cut phone wires in Egypt during the '53 conflict.

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troung

1956, not 1953.

ChrisF202

O and Britian won the 1982 Falklands War not Argentina

bigross86

You're right, it was '56, not '53. My bad.

TopHatter

bigross, don't forget that the 101 Squadron of Israel's Chel Ha'vir also used Czech-built Avia S 199's in the late 1940's. The Avia was a copy of the famed Messerschmitt Bf-109. Talk about macabre irony. Apparently the Israeli pilots hated it though (as did the Czechs) since it suffered from a high accident rate. On the other hand, it did give Israel it's start at building an air force.

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troung

Mirage 2000-5EI of the ROCAF.........

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Mirage IIIEA..................

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Mirage F-1CG.............

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Mirage IIIO (Pakistani)

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Hawg166

I have always liked the Super Entenard. I saw some of them back in the 80's when we sailed next to one of the french carriers. I think it was the Clemencau but I dont know. It may have been the Foche. Saw some F8's along with them, but I still like the Entenard.

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Stuff they have shot down...........

Mirage III/5
MiG-21 (IDF/PAF/SAAF)?
MiG-19 (IDF)
MiG-17 (IDF)
Su-20/22 (IDF)
Su-7 (IDF/PAF)
Hunter (IDF/PAF)?
Canberra (PAF)?



:unsure Somebody link me to a website where PAF Mirages have shot down any aircraft, let alone IAF aircrafts

bigross86

By they way, dude, they aren't called the IDF. That's the general name. Their name is the Israeli Air Force, or IAF.

Ray

I like Russian fighters.

They are cheap. They are rugged.

Disadvantage: They are fuel guzzlers and they are poor on avionics.

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s_qwert63

Whats the Mirage that can carry nukes?
quite funny that the French could not afford bombers and got their fighters to carry nuclear weapons.

+ I heard that the French Navy still uses Vought V-8's or something. Those are ancient...

I prefer Soviet fighters, especially the Su27 and the Mig 31.