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    I wonder how many people are completely confused by this discussion.
    "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

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    Umm..speaking of which..and I know this isn't the place for it, but what's your fav. episode?

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    Mine is "The City on the Edge of forever"

    It's the only show I ever saw where joan collins comes out and she didn't look like a skank.

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    But they have J-10a


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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowFever View Post
    Umm..speaking of which..and I know this isn't the place for it, but what's your fav. episode?
    Classic series: I have several favorites. A Piece of the Action; Trouble with Tribbles; I, Mudd; and A Taste of Armageddon.

    Next Generation: probably Yesterday's Enterprise.
    "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Drunk View Post
    Thats the thing, with cheap, pirated, virused and copied software in places like China, they don't work well enough to produce images like that. Besides you don't even use Photoshop for images like that, you use CAD based ones, like Pro-E, etc.

    Anyway any pilot would be able to tell, thats a photograph - 100%, internet geeks and computer nerds won't.
    Actually I use Lightwave, Boris Red, Photoshop, After Effects, Flame and 844xe. What you do is use the best features of each and constantly switch between software. China has extremely sophisticated software users just like most other countries and whoever did the plane was paid to do it. The ship photos posted in another thread were obvious fakes by a beginner using the simplest features of photoshop. The plane was/is either a 3d image or real model (prob. 3d because of the differing pixel resolution) layered into the background photo. Where they fell down was the original shadows on the floor. If you look carefully you'll see shadows with no corresponding object to generate them.

    edit: just noticed your change that the shadow was of the scoop, not the nose. What about the curve of the plane that comes down to meet the scoop? Where's that in the shadows? And what is the extra thick shadow forward of the landing gear photo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    Got to hand it to Kirk, only James Bond gets as many women as he does.
    Yeah but none of Bonds were green

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    Yabut that green chick was hot..!

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    Kirk always got the babes, that blond android chick was hot too.

    Favorite episodes: The City on the Edge of Tomorrow, Mirror Mirror, A Piece of the Action, Amok Time, A Taste of Armageddon, Shore Leave....
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    I wonder how many people are completely confused by this discussion.
    Some of us just happen to be well versed on TOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopHatter View Post
    Some of us just happen to be well versed on TOS.
    Kirk would do a tribble if it would stand still long enough. Bond had a little class. (Sean Connery anyway) Not even comparable.
    Last edited by Sandman; 22 Sep 06, at 02:33.

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    wow kao
    so many people
    I was confused too

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    Quote Originally Posted by HistoricalDavid View Post
    Adobe Photoshop 7.0 is quite, quite easily got, and it doesn't have to be in China, either. There are plenty of Russian and Chinese fanboys spread throughout the world - like you.

    Sure you do. Switch around a few numbers, touch up a few shadows, etc. As if LimeWire won't provide you with a top-of-the-line CAD program anyway.

    Since you talk about professionals, shall I invite intelligence officer Bluesman to this thread?
    You think you could produce a CGI image like that? Even Parihaka here, being a high level Graphics sepecialist may not be able to and thats certainly not the work of any fanboy, its a photograph you can see such realistic features - HUD in the cockpit, control vanes, etc. An aircraft engineer isn't going to waste time being a Graphics expert at the same time, unless hes an impressions artist for NASA or something. Secondly Sergio Coniglio that Italian Aeronautic Engineer who wrote the article knows thats not an image, but a photograph.

    Photos like this maybe even old stuff for seniors like Bluesman with intel. who have clearence for classified material. They've made the J-10, something akin to the Eurofighter so they could make something like this too.

    But I see how it is, grapes are sour just because its Chinese hahaha, too bad I can already see the Pakistani AF crescent on it too!
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    errrm... J-10 similar to Eurofighter???.....
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    The US is already working on next generation of stealth fighters to counter Russian/Chinese plasma stealth and hypersonic missiles.

    The plane in these pictures is air vehicle number 1, a prototype on board the USS Washington for catapult fit checks. Not yet made public, the F/A-37 is a Mach 3.5, super cruise stealth fighter/bomber/interceptor with a 4000nm range. Top speed is classified, some where in the Mach 4 plus range. Awesome! Also, there is no phase interval for this plane. It has a 10,000 hour life airframe and engines that require replacement only at failure or signs of trouble. The squadrons are to be out of Whidbey Island, 12 planes to a command.
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