Thread: China PLA

Dont you guys know that according to a few search engines we are the Pinnacle of western debate forums as far as the west goes. And we mostly lean to the right as well.LMAO go figure

So they stream here in search of notorioty and being the wonderfully kind people we are we supply it.Good or Bad .hehehehehehehe

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

No, he could really get his butt behind bars. A famous Chinese poster was jailed for posting J-10 pics he took with his camera ... which begs the question of just how good PLA OPSEC is.

However, I don't believe for one second that he has any such pics.

In addition Sir do you think he could get that close to the aircraft PS 'ed in those images and still be among the living?

I dunno I question the motive behind.......

You should come to China to have a look ,Mr bush don't tell you how will you pay if war with China.
US change by years,and China change by days.
I love US ,it is democracy,but I love China more ,she is just as my mother,I devote my life to her.Every student here thinks so

Seems out of the ordinary to post this being a new member with so few posts. IMO sound more like a propaganda venture.

Originally Posted by gunnut

What is up with these Chinese "students" and their photochopped weapons? They always have to add "my english is bad and I live in peace" in every post.

Lolol. Like the good Colonel says, Adobe is the largest arms maker in China...

Originally Posted by gunnut

Nearly all the aircraft pictures here are photochops. Most are bad. A few are good enough to be mistaken as real photos at first glance.

I didn't even come close to thinking any were real. One clue is that each "J-14" is completely different than the one before. You'd think these kids would at least be clever enough to use the same artist...

Then we have the I-2000/Shafaq pic posing as a Chinese stealth AC. This is a 20 year old abandoned subsonic Russian LIF/Trainer now being built in Iran.

The ship pics are pretty good too- there are all kinds of PS pics on the net of the PLAN fleet- usually the same 2 or 3 vessels with photoshopped numbers. My favorite is the one with the Ronald Reagan on the ways at Newport News, with Dalian Shipyards PS'd over the crane. Lol- Like no one is going to recognize a freaking Nimitz! The Colonel posted one awhile back that had about 20 subs in the same frame, lol. That guy got a little carried away with the copy/paste button....

Keep'em coming, wangrui961- we can use the laughs around here.

The first AWACS plane is definitely real. The 2nd one probably is as well (maybe not the radar dish, but the plane looks real). All the fighters were CG or photochopped.

You can see the reflection of the photographer and the flashlight from his camara in the 1st AWACS photo. There are also reflections of windows behind the guy in that picture.

The Type 52C frigate with the bow number 170 looks like photochopped. The 169 and 171 aren't as big and prominent on the other 2 ships. Probably 171 with 170 pasted on the bow to make it look like there are more of these ships in service.

Originally Posted by gunnut

The first AWACS plane is definitely real. The 2nd one probably is as well (maybe not the radar dish, but the plane looks real). All the fighters were CG or photochopped.

Agree, the AWACS, subs, and DDG's are real. None of the fighters are, except the I-2000 (the pic is an artist conception of a real plane, but a Russian design).

The first pic of the ship, sub, and AEW is kind of sketchy- that looks like a Phalcon nosecone on the plane.

How do we know its fake ??? thats ez ..
The chinese just finished a plane 2 years ago that is a copy of the Israeli "LAvi" which was made 20 years ago .

So if this stealth is real , then a ez calculation tells us that israel has already built the enterprise star ship .

Originally Posted by gunnut

The Type 52C frigate with the bow number 170 looks like photochopped. The 169 and 171 aren't as big and prominent on the other 2 ships. Probably 171 with 170 pasted on the bow to make it look like there are more of these ships in service.

Well, 170 was launched first, 171 came second of the 052C's. 168 and 169 are 052B's, without the phased array radar system.

There are some slight differences in the pics of 170 and 171, antennas and radomes look slightly different, I can't see the launchers aft of the rear mast on 171, so I can't tell if they are cylindrical or boxes. If one is faked, it's 171. Sinodefence says they are both real, but that's not hard proof.

The Colonel knows- Colonel, are there two 052C DDG's in PLAN service?

WTF! This AT FIRST SIGHT GAVE ME HEART ATTACK.I'm still in trauma :( . i'll ask my journalist friends to make a massive campaign on ndtv and stuffs bout indias aerospace industry so that it gets some attention. seriously if this is true we are seeing interesting days ahead.

Ihope its true on one sense, "afterall its human developement" it'll take our chaps out of the den! and if its PS oh well....

but hey do u want me to go to china? to see those? what bout my personal security? i can arrange terms...

where did India's space industry come in???

Originally Posted by highsea

Well, 170 was launched first, 171 came second of the 052C's. 168 and 169 are 052B's, without the phased array radar system.

There are some slight differences in the pics of 170 and 171, antennas and radomes look slightly different, I can't see the launchers aft of the rear mast on 171, so I can't tell if they are cylindrical or boxes. If one is faked, it's 171. Sinodefence says they are both real, but that's not hard proof.

The Colonel knows- Colonel, are there two 052C DDG's in PLAN service?

Ah, I did not know that. I just thought a military should like things to be uniform. Different size numbers on the bow of the same class of warship just doesn't make any sense.

Originally Posted by Tronic

where did India's space industry come in???

isnt it obvious? if china developes stealth tech there will be huge concerns over indian defence officials.

Originally Posted by gunnut

Different size numbers on the bow of the same class of warship just doesn't make any sense.

Agree. I have definitely seen PS'd numbers on PLAN pics in the past, it's always suspicous.

Compare the position of the numbers from the furthest aft hawsepipe.

171 from sinodefence: the port side number is aft of the last hawsepipe.

http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/surface/052c2.asp

In the pic posted in this thread, the number is centered or forward of the aft hawsepipe.

170, both numbers are centered from the aft hawsepipe on both sides:

port side
http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/surface/052c1.asp

Starboard side:
http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/surface/052c4.asp

In the pics on this thread, the number is mostly aft of the hawsepipe.

So why do the numbers move around???

Here's my question: