Thread: MRCA Competition

wasnt this aviram the guy who said that the lca looks like a f4? OMG! that shows his knowledge regarding these matters!

Originally Posted by highsea

That's probably true- the Fulcrum will have been blown up on the ground the week before...

Wrong, I was reffering solely to Russian AF Mig-29s no one's going to attack or you're Air Force will be flying rescue missions only back home until Kingdom Come!

Originally Posted by Captain Drunk

Wrong, I was reffering solely to Russian AF Mig-29s no one's going to attack or you're Air Force will be flying rescue missions only back home until Kingdom Come!

Give Iran 10-15 more years.

Originally Posted by avon1944

India may buy advanced Israeli aircraft
http://www.air-attack.com/news/news_...-aircraft.html

In a Tel Aviv-datelined dispatch, it said, “Fighter jets vying for India’s $8 billion Medium-range Multirole Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) programme may have to make room for a late entry: the Israel Air Force F-16I Sufa, or Storm. In an unprecedented move aimed at sharpening its edge over fellow US and international competitors, Lockheed Martin is eyeing the F-16I as a low-cost, high-performance alternative to the French Rafale, the Swedish JAS 39 Gripen, the Eurofighter Typhoon, Boeing’s F/A-18E/F and the Russian MiG-35.”

Adrian

F16s for the IAF, when hell freezes over! Aint gonna happen- they are PAFs alone..

Likewise Migeez will always be married to the IAF, for better or worse.....good times and bad....

Originally Posted by Archer

F16s for the IAF, when hell freezes over! Aint gonna happen- they are PAFs alone..

besides, after the Mirage pullout, didn't the IAF say only twin engined aircraft??? automatically eliminating the F-16 from the competition...

Originally Posted by Tronic

besides, after the Mirage pullout, didn't the IAF say only twin engined aircraft??? automatically eliminating the F-16 from the competition...

IIRC that has been changed. Why would the Gripen be on the list?

Do you think India would turn down the F-35??

Originally Posted by highsea

IIRC that has been changed. Why would the Gripen be on the list?

Do you think India would turn down the F-35??

The Airforce Doesnt showed any Intreset in Buying JSF but the Navy is Keen to have One Squadron each of JSF 35C and FA-18 Super Hornets need to be bid for by the Indian Navy.

The CNS cited the inherent incompatibility of the Super Hornet with the aircraft carriers of the Indian Navy, which incorporate the concept of Short Take-Off But Arrested Recovery (STOBAR), in absence of the steam catapults necessary for the Super Hornets for take-off. On the other hand, the Indian aircraft carriers utilise the “ski-jump” that forms an integral part of the STOBAR operations. The Short Take-Off and Vertical Landing (STOVL) version of the F-35B being developed for United States Marine Corps (USMC) can utilise the ski-jump for take-off and would be more suitable for the Indian Navy.

Originally Posted by avon1944

India may buy advanced Israeli aircraft
http://www.air-attack.com/news/news_...-aircraft.html

In a Tel Aviv-datelined dispatch, it said, “Fighter jets vying for India’s $8 billion Medium-range Multirole Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) programme may have to make room for a late entry: the Israel Air Force F-16I Sufa, or Storm. In an unprecedented move aimed at sharpening its edge over fellow US and international competitors, Lockheed Martin is eyeing the F-16I as a low-cost, high-performance alternative to the French Rafale, the Swedish JAS 39 Gripen, the Eurofighter Typhoon, Boeing’s F/A-18E/F and the Russian MiG-35.”

Adrian

Nope Has the other members said The IAF will never go for F-16s Aircrafts.

F-16I is a version of F-16 falcons which Design according to Israel Requirments. The Main real differences between them are the radars and avionics. ....Israeli defense industries, with cooperation of Lockheed Martin the F-16 original manufacturer and the assistance of the Israeli Ministries of Defense and Finance enabled the F-16 ACE Program.The Sufa jet has an unrefueled combat strike radius well in excess of 500 miles. The extended flight range enables the Israel to attack targets well within Iran and Libya without having to refuel.

Its Complelty cannot be suitable for IAF(Indian Airforce)

Originally Posted by highsea

IIRC that has been changed. Why would the Gripen be on the list?

Do you think India would turn down the F-35??

I'd be completely shocked if they did turn it down (provided it was offered in the first place).

Side note I can't seem to find any pics of the underside of the aircraft, does anyone have a pic of the F-35 with bomb bays clearly visible and open?

In a new twist to ongoing Indo-French talks for used Mirage 2000 for IAF, French offered used Rafale in place of M2K .

France has made a new offer to supply India with 20 Rafale multirole combat fighters — enough for one squadron — that are currently flying with the French Air Force.A visiting team from the French Ministry of Defense (MoD) made the offer here Oct. 6 in separate briefings with the Indian Air Force’s commander, Air Chief Marshal S.P. Tyagi, and Indian Defence Secretary Shekhar Dutt.
The new French offer is a result of India’s request to buy Mirage-2000H aircraft from the French Air Force inventory, a senior French diplomat here said. During their briefings, he said, the French MoD team said France cannot offer India any used Mirage-2000Hs immediately because the aircraftfirst must be decommissioned, a lengthy procedure.
“In order to fill up the depleting inventory of combat plates with the Indian Air Force, the Indian government should buy used Rafale aircraft as an interim measure, and thereafter France will be able to supply around 40 Mirage-2000H aircraft by 2012,” the diplomat said.
However, a senior Indian Defence Ministry official said the new French offer “has come to us all of a sudden, and we will take time to review the proposal. However, India is very keen to purchase used Mirage 2000H aircraft from France.”
The same ministry official said French officials confirmed that Paris has begun a dialogue with Qatar — at the behest of India’s Defence Ministry — to purchase 12 used Qatari Mirage 2000-5 aircraft, which in turn would be sold to India. But “the French government has not given us any time commitment for deliveries of the used planes,” he added.
That proposed deal, along with the possible supply of used French Air Force Mirage 2000-H aircraft, is part of an understanding reached during the Sept. 3-5 visit to Paris of Indian Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee.
Last year, India negotiated with Qatar to buy that country’s Mirage 2000-5 aircraft directly, but the negotiations collapsed when the governments couldn’t agree on a price.
The Indian Air Force also wants 52 of its Mirage 2000-H aircraft, which are five years overdue for midlife upgrades, to be upgraded to the Mirage 2000-9 standard.
“Once the procurement of the 12 Mirage 2000-5 and the 40 used Mirage 2000-H aircraft is finalized, then the Indian Air Force would ask Dassault International, the [original equipment manufacturer] of the Mirage aircraft, to upgrade” the Qatari aircraft and six Indian Mirage-2000-Hs to the -2000-9 standard, an Indian Air Force official said.
The upgraded planes would be equipped with Israeli avionics, electronic warfare systems and Russian armaments, he added. Thereafter, India’s Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. would upgrade the remaining Mirage aircraft in Bangalore with technical help from Dassault, the Air Force official said.

French are really desparate to get Rafale in IAF. Con't understand how they can't offer used M2K, but can spare used Rafale . This is getting interesting.

Used Rafale for IAF

They're trying to suck you in!

They are in bad need for customers for the Rafale...

Originally Posted by highsea

Do you think India would turn down the F-35??

yes... too expensive and no big threat so it isn't even needed...

Originally Posted by Tronic

yes... too expensive and no big threat so it isn't even needed...

Lol. Okay.