Thread: MRCA Competition

Originally Posted by urmomma158

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let the commie go...

Originally Posted by itchynuts

oh no my remarks was not against Mr.highsea, it was towards the indianguy.lol. highsea made some good points though, but still no concrete proof.lol

i have nothing to be ashame of being chinese, but i am not! i'm 100% slovenian born, currently live in australia. i have alot of interest in east asian affair, i've spend alot of time reading stuff from these countries, so when some idiots disinfroming...it annoy me.

LOL, next you'll be martian born living on pluto..

please stop making alot of noise so that the point that india being unskilled enough make the MKIs with TOT from russia lost in the chaos.

India is quite skilled enough to make its MKIs...perhaps the real reason is that your real home didnt get a chance to make anything comparable..

Here we go again. TOI reports on low servicibility of Mig-21 Bison (33% ) IAF says situation has improved to around 70%. I for one don't think India should go for Mig-35, instaed should select any western (except for Rafale - just to teach French some lesson) fighters. Atleast they will fly, not sit on the bloody tarmac all the time.

IAF mig-21 bison

Originally Posted by kams

Here we go again. TOI reports on low servicibility of Mig-21 Bison (33% ) IAF says situation has improved to around 70%. I for one don't think India should go for Mig-35, instaed should select any western (except for Rafale - just to teach French some lesson) fighters. Atleast they will fly, not sit on the bloody tarmac all the time.

IAF mig-21 bison

When the Jaguars first came in, they werent any better. All things take time to resolve (and proper maint facilities)- note most of the stuff in the Bison is spanking new- Kopyo, INS (Sagem), etc etc..IIRC the MTBF for the Kopyo was to be 250, in IAF it was found to be TEN, and is now upto 110...so you gotta work at it..

My guess is that India will go in for the upgraded Mig-29s, converting its older fleet into SMT / SMT II standard. Like their Mig-21s that got converted to deadly BVR Mig-21-93 standards as capable as PAFs F-16As, they're bound to upgrade all Mig-29s with Flanker missiles / avionics until its roughly comparable to older version F-15s. Migs surely are very cost affective western aircraft are just too costly and not worth it, maintaining a twin-engined Mig-29 would still be less costly than an F-16.

why would we pass up the oppurtunity on the F/A-18E/Fs with AESA??? in the longer run, the F-18s are suppose to be cheaper then the Mig-29s simply because they have a longer engine life...

Are you nuts? An F-18EF costs USD 95 million, thats the latest price going. You can buy 2 Mig-29s with full ordinance for that same price. Look at the way Pakistan has just backed out of going ahead with those 36 F-16s the US was offering. They said those F-16s didn't come with "vital components" as they had hoped and whether they meant AIM-120s or AESA radars no one knows.

Frankly the F-18EF with AESA is total BS, in the world of BVR its another F-5 Tiger, in my considered opinion. Its just too expensive and not worthy for that price. We've seen the wonders of the Mig-21-93 how it beat the F-5, F-8, etc. and Mig-29 SMT / SMT 2s and later versions are roughly comparable to the F-15, western sources say themselves.

Also longer engine life would mean more maintainence, more cost for the F-18s. They'd even need different hangers I've heard, if we opted for them - a whole diff. infrastructure. Pilot familiarisation would also be a big problem, Fulcrum pilots could easily be upgraded to SMT standards.

Archer seriously F18E with AESA? god i'd be so disappointed if india gets that.
F18e is one a big fighter to maintain too.... since India got the Rd33k engine for local production i dont see why should india go for F18.the US foreign policy is designed in such a way it is bound to have strings attached! and we are not gonna abide by them.source codes + tot is what india seeks. do you think we are nuts enough to go for something whose jamming code is already in the hands of the allys of US. if india goes for F18 "only a squadron or so.." it'll be entirely political decision.

my best bet would be a couple squadron of rafale with meteor + mig 35 with russian AESA "in developement".
remember we can always put tht russian AESA in our NAVAL LCA and also in our LCA in 2010 which will have the kaveri.
LCA with AESA wud be deadly little bird.
The RD33k has 5000 hours of engine life compared to Rd33 which is 1000 right?

Captain if ur affiliarted rto IAF tell them not to have F18 for GODS SAKE.cuz i know sooner or later we'll test icbm and we'll be sanctioned.

The BEST part of buying russian hardware is thery gives the cource codes only to us, and some to china.
other smaller natiopns doesnt even needs them as they are happy on a outright purchase.
so the source code stays a secret among 2 nation and the biggest advantage is we guys can change alter and have reverse jamming codes too....

Originally Posted by Tronic

let the commie go...

ROFLOL!

Tronic..you a-hole!

You made me spill my coffee all over my keyobard......