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You're kidding, right?
The only thing they have in common is that they both have wheels.
F-14(any operation version)
MiG-23(any operation version)
Let's hear you opinons. Which one is better in the intercept and air superiority roles? The F-14A is armed with only AIM-7 Sparrows and AIM-9 Sidewinders.
I'll even let the MiG-23MLD vs the F-14D into this contest too.
You're kidding, right?
The only thing they have in common is that they both have wheels.
No I'm not kidding. There is a 45+ page thread that's been going on for more than a year on it on another aircraft forum. Two Russian guys keep spouting things about the MiG-23's dominance over the F-14.
I wanted to hear member's thoughts on this board.
IMO depends on whose flying them/strategies,tactics/support systems(AWACS,ELINT,etc)/weapons loadout/ROE's/...the aircraft itself is only part of the equation, the bigger equation is the systems supporting it.
aren't Mig-27's suppose to be supperior to the Mig-23's???
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They are not even in the same league. F-14 had technology and avionics far beyond the MiG-23. Sure, they look alike. Both had variable geometry wings. But the one on the F-14 is controlled by the computer to always be at the most efficient angle. While the one on the MiG is manually selected to be at 1 of 3 fixed angles, basically: take off/landing, cruise, and dash.Originally Posted by JCSVT
F-14 was armed with the longest ranged A2A missile in the world, and could track multiple targets and attack multiple targets when all other fighters could do at the time was one.
MiG-23 was a follow up to MiG-21, which had very short range and little payload. It was hoped that MiG-23 was good enough to challenge the F-4 Phantom at the time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mig_23
I believe MiG-27 is the ground attack version of the MiG-23. Fighter avionics were trimmed and the nose was redesigned to give better visibility in the gound attack operations.
Oh no.
"Two Russian guys keep spouting things about the MiG-23's dominance over the F-14."
I believe the same thing will end up happening here. These kinds of Russian vs American tech threads always seem to invite trolls.
Anyway, as far as the comparison goes, the conclusion of an F-14 vs MiG-23 engagement is already known, too, with a real shoot down of 2 MiG-23s in an F-14A vs MiG-23 engagement. Here's a link and a recording of the engagement.
They'll just say the Americans had better support during the engagement. They'll never accept that the F-14 was engineered to be superior to any figher in the world at the time, and was.
There is one thing the MiG has on the F-14: cost. You can buy a squadron of MiG-23 for the cost of an F-14.
Yeah, that's the tried and true fallback, lol.
"Well, America only fights against poorly trained and ill-equipped opponents"
If I was MiG, I would start looking for some new customers, since the ones they have are giving them a bad name...
"We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way." -President Barack Obama 11/25/2008
New and smart customers are staying away from Russian Aircraft.
Look at the recent buyers of Sukhois and Migs. Everyone of them has "LOW COST" on their minds. Even if they didn like Americans, they still could have opted for the Eurocanards. No, only budget buyers go for Sukhois n MiGs.
US makes everyone look poorly trained and ill-equiped.
Be careful making absolute statements like that.
OK, a slight modification:Be careful making absolute statements like that.
US makes everyone look either poorly trained or ill-equiped, in some cases, both, but not all the time, only mostly, somewhat, but definitely the ones we go to war with...
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
F-14 Tomcat will kick Mig-23 ugly ass.
I seem to recall 2 F-14's kicking the asses of 2 MiG-23's...
F-14's would own MiG-23's, any situation.
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