Strange designations - Page 5

**TopHatter** · 05-16-2006, 18:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PubFather

Erm doesnt Havoc have 2 syllables?

So does Hoplite. Quit screwing with my perfect theory.

hello · 05-17-2006, 00:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TopHatter

Right! Would tend to make sense I guess, though I don't know of any other Soviet naval helos, just those.

One syllable for Mil and two for Kamov? (just ignore the Mi-2, just your imagination that it's even on that list

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Mi-1 Hare
Mi-2 Hoplite
Mi-4 Hound
Mi-6 Hook
Mi-8 Hip
Mi-14 Haze
Mi-17 Hip H
Mi-24 Hind
Mi-25 Hind D
Mi-26 Halo
Mi-28 Havoc
Mi-35 Hind E/F

Ka-25 Hormone
Ka-27 Helix
Ka-28 Helix
Ka-29 Helix
Ka-31
Ka-32 Helix
Ka-50 Hokum
Ka-52 Hokum B
Ka-60 Kasatka
Ka-62 Kasatka

Kasatka? I don't think that's the NATO reporting name, it doesn't begin with "H". It's like calling Su-47 Berkut a jet bomber. Also, it's a three-syllable word.

PubFather · 05-17-2006, 01:44 AM

lol another brilliant theory abandoned just because it doesnt work...

(Hound two syllables as well??)

Silent Hunter · 08-31-2007, 16:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hello

Kasatka? I don't think that's the NATO reporting name, it doesn't begin with "H". It's like calling Su-47 Berkut a jet bomber. Also, it's a three-syllable word.

Kasatka and Berkut are the Russian names.

The Russians had informal nicknames for their aircraft- like Chemodan ("luggage cart") for the MiG-23 "Flogger". There's a list here.

Kerndon · 09-03-2007, 07:52 AM

Here's a link to a great site for military designation systems:

US Military Aviation Designation Systems

Also very well explains the gaps and oddities in the current DOD designations.

Silent Hunter · 12-02-2007, 08:41 AM

Question- how widely known were these reporting names among the ordinary crewdogs and sailors of the Soviet military?

Jimmy · 12-02-2007, 13:16 PM

That's something I've always wondered.

Also, what do they call western aircraft?

ArmchairGeneral · 12-02-2007, 14:15 PM

I don't really know, but I have read that they disliked most of them, with good reason. Who wants to fly a fighter named Fishbed?

I've heard they did like Fulcrum and Flanker, though.

**TopHatter** · 12-02-2007, 14:49 PM

Wow, old thread.

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Originally Posted by Maximus

Yes, they do indeed. But can you still consider them calling a Patrol a/c. Moreover, would the AF choose an aircraft with a crew of 10-12 people for anti-ship patrol missions?

An F-18 or even an F-16 could get the job done much easily!

The Harpoons are for "spearing" a surfaced "whale", not necessarily for an ASuW mission.

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Originally Posted by ArmchairGeneral

I don't really know, but I have read that they disliked most of them, with good reason. Who wants to fly a fighter named Fishbed?

I've heard they did like Fulcrum and Flanker, though.

Havoc is/was probably "worn" with pride as well.

Even if it is the most butt-ugly gunship ever conceived.

I mean, how do you go from a sleek and menacing beauty like the Hind and then design the Havoc?

Feanor · 12-02-2007, 20:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TopHatter

Havoc is/was probably "worn" with pride as well.

Even if it is the most butt-ugly gunship ever conceived.

I mean, how do you go from a sleek and menacing beauty like the Hind and then design the Havoc?

It might be but ugly but it's certainly an impressive piece of equipment. Not like the Apache looks much cooler

ArmchairGeneral · 12-03-2007, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TopHatter

Havoc is/was probably "worn" with pride as well.

Even if it is the most butt-ugly gunship ever conceived.

I mean, how do you go from a sleek and menacing beauty like the Hind and then design the Havoc?

Er, the Hind D is sleek? Menacing, sure, but sleek?

Or are you just talking about the earlier versions?

gunnut · 12-03-2007, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ArmchairGeneral

I don't really know, but I have read that they disliked most of them, with good reason. Who wants to fly a fighter named Fishbed?

I've heard they did like Fulcrum and Flanker, though.

Flanker is a great name. I also like Fullback, Bear (how much more classic can it be?), Blackjack, even Foxbat. I'm not too crazy about Fagot though.

ArmchairGeneral · 12-03-2007, 16:30 PM

I've often wondered who gets to make up the NATO designations. What I wouldn't give to have that job.

gunnut · 12-03-2007, 18:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmchairGeneral

I've often wondered who gets to make up the NATO designations. What I wouldn't give to have that job.

Could be Monty Python.

**TopHatter** · 12-03-2007, 18:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Feanor

It might be but ugly but it's certainly an impressive piece of equipment.

Not talking about capability here

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Originally Posted by Feanor

Not like the Apache looks much cooler

Compared to the Havoc? I beg to differ, but that probably comes down to opinion.

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Originally Posted by ArmchairGeneral

Er, the Hind D is sleek? Menacing, sure, but sleek?

Or are you just talking about the earlier versions?

No, the D model is what I had mind. That tandem seating really does it, IHMO

It's just a really clean profile, especially looking dead-on. And especially compared to the Havoc and yes, the Apache as well.

05-17-2006, 01:44 AM	#63 (permalink)
PubFather *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 04-25-06 Location: Glasgow Posts: 1,198 Country:	lol another brilliant theory abandoned just because it doesnt work... (Hound two syllables as well??) __________________ Nemo Me Impune Lacessit - Scottish Motto "They that approve a private opinion, call it opinion; but they that dislike it, heresy; and yet heresy signifies no more than private opinion” Thomas Hobbes - Leviathan

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Kerndon New Member Join Date: 09-02-07 Location: Germany Posts: 5 Country:	Here's a link to a great site for military designation systems: US Military Aviation Designation Systems Also very well explains the gaps and oddities in the current DOD designations. __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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ArmchairGeneral Devil's Advocate *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 05-03-06 Location: The boonies of NC, USA. Posts: 2,737 Country:	I don't really know, but I have read that they disliked most of them, with good reason. Who wants to fly a fighter named Fishbed? I've heard they did like Fulcrum and Flanker, though. __________________ "Apocalyptic thought is curiously pleasurable." -Theodore Dalrymple

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