badguy2000

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i think it should be the cockpit of the rear pilot.the rear pilot need not much viewsight.

badguy2000

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/at...tachmentid=8620
i think it should be the cockpit of the rear pilot.the rear pilot need not much viewsight.

badguy2000

hi,guy.
JH7 can assault warships along a height of 60 meters from the sea surface and launch supersonic JY91 antiship missle with a range of 250 KM,when JH7 is out of the range of SM2 anti-air missile,besides that any radars ,including the radars of Patriot, can't detect a object flying along a height of 60 meters from the sea 60 KM away.

badguy2000

JH7 has a old airframe,but with weightload of 9T and new radar,aviation& missiles,it is one of most effective and deadly anti-ship weapon-system in the world now.
with its long range,JH 7 can easily assault warships in Japan or or indonesia 3500 KM away from chinese mainland.
with its weightload of 9 T,JH7 can carry 4 YJ91 heavy anti-ship missiles ,half of anti-ship firepower of a modern DDG.
with its new aviation,JH-7 can assault warship along sea surface at a height of 60 meters ,undetected by any radars.
with its new anti-ship missiles of a range of over 250 KM,JH-7 can fire out of the range of anti-air missiles.

Officer of Engineers

The JH-7? That piece of underpowered junk?

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Anon

But an S400 can....?

LOL

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canoe

ROFL, where to start...

There is no possible way a JH7 can hit anything 3500km away, nothing short of heavy bombers can travel that far and it definately doesn't carry a radar with that kind of range so it can't target standoff weapons even a fourth of that distance.

It maybe able to carry 4 anti ship missiles but there is no way thats even half the equilvent of a modern DDG. An Arleigh Burke DDG has two quadpack harpoon launchers (8 harpoons) plus 96 VLS cells some of which will be carrying Tomahawks which can operate as an anti-ship missile.

"The anti-ship Tomahawk missile is equipped with an inertial guidance and an active radar and anti-radiation homing head. The range is up to 450km."

U.S is installing new radars on their ships to detect sea-skimming targets, also I beleive CIWS was upgraded awhile ago and can engage sea-skimmers.

I seriously doubt its radar can actually see ships from 250KM away, especially if the ships are jamming. And if it moves in closer then 190KM to acquire a target then it can be hit with SM2's.

Garry

Everything starts from something small..... In my view Chinese made a quantium leep in aviation. Until recently all they were not even a manufacturing nation, assemblying foreign designs... This set of skills is already developed.... they can ASSEMBLE aircrafts and match USA, Europe and Russia in this skill.

However design skills are hard to acquired. India and China are now spending a lot of efforts in this direction. I believe this is a breakthrough for China! They learned how to intergrade things into a flying fighter.......

I believe that now they need to focus as well on domestic R&D and manufacturing of TURBINE BLADES AND ROTORS...... this is a key to be able to produce their own engines. At present China is still few decades behind the world in this crutial skill..... but investment and devotion may help them to build up this skill in a decade or so.

It takes time..... but if they would be same persistent we may expect that in couple of decades China will roll out its own 6th generation fighter..... I would be 54 then

badguy2000

Tomahawk missile is a kind of crusing missile,so it is normal to have a range of 450 KM at a expense of speed.but YJ91 is a supersonic missile.

china also has anti-ship crusing missiles with a range of 500 km (Hongliao),even 2500 KM( Donghai 10).crusing missile is a good toy to precisely attacking warship.in china,new upgraded H6G(chinese vesion of Tu16) play a role of platform launching crusing missiles.

the airframe of H6(Tu16) was designed in late 1950's and is very old also.but with upgraded aviation , new engine&radar and rather good weightload, H6 is a good platform launching crusing missile out of the range of enemy's airdefence,which is somewhat similar to the role of B52 in US air force.

in fact,unnecessary to leave china ,H6 can stay home and launch Donghai 10 crusing missile(2500 KM range) to attack precisely Guam and indonesia.so slow speed and unwieldiness are not holdback for H6 to play its role.

gunnut

You have to realize that 9t is MAX load. Normally war planes don't take off with max load, unless you have a vast network of aerial refueling capability like the USAF. Then you take off with minimal fuel and top off in the air immediately after take off, then a few more times on the way to the target.

The 3500km range you see and hear is probably the MAX range, most likely with external tanks, and cruising at the most efficient altitude and speed. War planes don't do that during real missions.

Don't look at the max figures and think they are etched in stone. You have to look at realistic numbers during missions and those stats are hard to come by.

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gunnut

What kind of target acquisition range do you have from 60 meters above the surface? What kind of range can you get out of your fighters flying at 60m while carrying a full warload?

SM2 may only have a range of 70km, but US ships don't operate alone. They usually bring friends. Fighters from carriers supported by AWACS.

Aegis and Patriot may not be able to see your plane 60m above the surface from 60km away, that also means you can't see your target. Ever thought of that?

Anon

SM-2 has a range more along the liines of 70 nautical miles.

PS, with an incoming target at an altitude of 60m with the radar situated about 25m above sea level(about the altitude of the top of the mainmast in a ROCN Kidd DDG), the radar horizon is 52.6 Km, and the visual horizon(ie the range at which optical systems tied to a FLIR at the top of the mast can begin to engage) is 45.5 Km.

However, the FCRs(SPG-62s IIRC) are mounted somewhat lower on the Kidd class DDGs, at an altitude of probably about 20 meters. That would allow the Kidd's SM-2s to begin engaging a target at 60 meters altitude at a range of about 50 Km.

http://radarproblems.com/calculators/horizon.htm