Farewell, the MiGnificent flying machine - Page 4

Anon · 04-25-2006, 22:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Drunk

What beastly luck the Foxbat's being phased out. Straying across international borders at Mach 3 must have been the ultimate thrill in all military aviation history.......anything less, like flying slower invisible to radar could be done in a helicopter hovering a few feet above the ground

To hit Mach3 a Foxbat destroys itself in the process. So no, a foxbat does not streak across borders at Mach 3...

Anon · 04-25-2006, 22:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Drunk

"This feeling of flying high could not be touched by anything. I have taken a ride on roller-coaster in the US and its speed could not match with what I had experienced."
"

Too bad no one gave him a ride in an SR-71. Then he'd know what real speed was...

Anon · 04-25-2006, 22:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Serbianpsyco

Sr-71 are fast and good for recon but they dont carry any missiles and thats were the mig 25 comes in but also the mig 31 is based on the mig 25 with better avionics bigger weapons load and also it has a state of the art radar with 200km Lock-On capabilty so that means it wont be able to catch but it can always lock on the missile and shoot it down beacuse missile is faster.

All that, and only one period(no commas).

Amazing...

Anon · 04-25-2006, 22:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Drunk

Never heard of a Tomcat - Foxbat showdown. On the contrary, it were Libyan Foxbats that chased F-14s back to the carrier in 1989. Then, in 1991, as wave after wave of F-14s and F-15s entered Iraqi airspace, escorted by A-6 and A-7 fighters, one Iraqi Foxbat took to the air, shot down an F-18, shot a missile at an A-6 and whizzed past another. Foxbats also saved the MiG-29s, which Saddam Hussein sent to Iran for safekeeping before the war broke out. The MiG-29s flew to safety while a few Foxbats engaged USAF's F-15s which tried to intercept the fleeing planes. The F-15s shot more than half a dozen missiles at the Foxbats, but the latter outflew all of them. These were still the Mach 2.83 Foxbats and not the Recee Mig-25s.

Nothing ever happened to that Mig-25 over Israel, it landed safely in Egypt. If its engines had flamed out, that 35-tonne plane would have fallen into the Dead Sea like a rock.

Truly you are an ass-clown of nearly incomprehensible proportions...

Anon · 04-25-2006, 22:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Serbianpsyco

But i dont see the SR-71 doing a combat role the Mig 25 was not made for Recossine only it was made for also attack and sr-71 has a bigger engine then the mig 25 and also burning kid mig 25 engines when they exceed dont burn out what kind of fake website did you go onto plus the 2.8mach is standard speed and they put it like thats a speed that you can go fast and close to mach 3 so the airframe and the engines last as long as possible.

The SR-71 program started life as the A-12 INTERCEPTOR.

Anon · 04-25-2006, 22:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Drunk

Although SR-71s were intended to overfly Russia, they never did because Russia had the technology to shoot them down - 9 U-2s are known to have been shot down.

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT.

Not only have SR-71s over flown Russia MANY TIMES, no SR-71 has ever been lost despite having in excess of 3000 operational warshot SAMs shot at it in OPERATIONAL COMBAT SORTIES.

Dumbasss.

Serbianpsyco · 04-26-2006, 08:02 AM

Ok heres the Pictures see you put the name MIGnifecent see that means that it was really good for the SR-71 they forgot to put the A between the S and the R so it could SAR and thats why you add on Sarcrastic meanining biggest piss of junk.

lemontree · 04-26-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by M21Sniper

Not only have SR-71s over flown Russia MANY TIMES, no SR-71 has ever been lost despite having in excess of 3000 operational warshot SAMs shot at it in OPERATIONAL COMBAT SORTIES.

Impressive record.

Captain Drunk · 04-26-2006, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by M21Sniper

Not only have SR-71s over flown Russia MANY TIMES, no SR-71 has ever been lost despite having in excess of 3000 operational warshot SAMs shot at it in OPERATIONAL COMBAT SORTIES.

Thats only because the SR-71s were skirting Russian borders and not in the heart of Russia, far from the SAMs. Without mid-air refuelling, a 2900 odd mile ranged Blackbird won't make it across the Atlantic. Unlike the Concord, it'll plunge into the sea and at any given point from a Russian coast / border to the middle of Russia the distance is more than 5000 km. Hence no SR-71 overflew the heart of Russia only the outskirts. Recee Foxbats are strictly made for Mach 3, the Mach 2.83 speed was for longer service life of the engines since during maintainence overhauls fan blades, bearing, etc. had to be replaced regularly. Also, no F-15 flies at Mach 2.5+ above 30,000 ft. it is 15% faster only at sea level from where it cannot intercept a Foxbat flying 90,000 ft. up. A Foxbat has gone upto 118,898 ft., which is still a record no SR-71 has ever beat

From here it is clearly evident that everyone is just jealous that Russia and a few of its combatant ally cronies have an unrivalled Mach 3 interceptor. But regardless of every other novice’s 2 cent opinion, like it or not IAF Foxbats have always “crossed the fence” beyond hostile borders at Mach 3, like it or not.

Jimmy · 04-26-2006, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Drunk

Thats only because the SR-71s were skirting Russian borders and not in the heart of Russia, far from the SAMs. Without mid-air refuelling, a 2900 odd mile ranged Blackbird won't make it across the Atlantic. Unlike the Concord, it'll plunge into the sea and at any given point from a Russian coast / border to the middle of Russia the distance is more than 5000 km. Hence no SR-71 overflew the heart of Russia only the outskirts. Recee Foxbats are strictly made for Mach 3, the Mach 2.83 speed was for longer service life of the engines since during maintainence overhauls fan blades, bearing, etc. had to be replaced regularly. Also, no F-15 flies at Mach 2.5+ above 30,000 ft. it is 15% faster only at sea level from where it cannot intercept a Foxbat flying 90,000 ft. up. A Foxbat has gone upto 118,898 ft., which is still a record no SR-71 has ever beat

Where do you get your information? How in the world do you have any idea what flight path SR-71s follow? I guarantee you dont. Unless you were the pilot (which you're obviously not) then you're talking out of your ass. Above Mach 3, the SR-71's engines are consuming very little fuel...its got legs.

F-15s do fly over 30k feet. I've watched it happen, and almost done it myself in the backseat.

urmomma158 · 04-26-2006, 09:55 AM

Hey Drunk you jackass F15's have destroyed Foxbats while no F15 has ever been lost to a foxbat, none have been lost ever(a2a). You seem to be one of those ******s that smokes crack. Funny how foxbats have been buried in the sand as well. I'd like to see what a foxbat can do against a THAAD battery.

Also F 15's can go mach 2.5 and have even went up to 90,000 feet shows how much you know.

Captain Drunk · 04-26-2006, 10:08 AM

You're not reading correctly, because Snipe said the F-15 flies at Mach 2.5+, which obviously it dosen't and above 30,000 ft. it would fly much slower, Mach 2.5 being 'clean' only at sea level since a jets speed is 15% faster closer to the surface than higher up. The ceiling for an F-15 is around 65,000 ft. a Mig-25R is just too fast and too high for it to catch up with, so he meant an F-15 is chasing a Foxbat at something like 80,000 ft., at Mach 2.5+ its impossible.

In May 1997, when an IAF Foxbat zoomed low over Islamabad with a deafening noise it was thought that the PAF didn't scramble enough of their F-16s, since they then thought the better of it. For, no plane could reach anywhere near a Foxbat. PAF still believes that the IAF's Foxbat pilot deliberately broke the sound barrier to rub it into PAF minds that they had nothing that could get close to a MiG-25.

The IAF states, "Foxbat pilots have only one regret: they get no combat experience. There are no dogfights, no manoeuvres, for the plane does not encounter an enemy at that speed and height."

Now as for the SR-71, it doesn't have the unrefuelled range to go deep into places like Tomsk or Baikonur that lie beyond 4000 km from international airspace. So the SR-71 cannot go there, only perhaps the Baltic or Bering Seas. Unnecessarily quit arguing like BK, it makes no sense.

Captain Drunk · 04-26-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by urmomma158

Also F 15's can go mach 2.5 and have even went up to 90,000 feet shows how much you know.

Great that must have been you strapped in your seat @ your Pentium IV flying your own F-15 in cyberspace

Those Foxbats were hit in unfair encounters either on the ground, landing or taking-off. While Cope India Mig-21s were doing a better job dealing with F-15s.

If theres one fighter that could have taken on a Foxbat in any true sense, it could have been this :

With some modifications Mach 3 would have been within easy reach, but even without the Crusader III would have become the fastest fighter aircraft in the world. An advanced guided missile like the Sparrow is useless without good avionics, and the F8U-3 had the most advanced electronic systems of its day. With the Westinghouse AN/APQ-74 as its core the weapons system was comparable with those later used in the F-14 Tomcat and F-15 Eagle, a good ten to fifteen years later. Now how even more advanced than this, is the Mig-25 PD Foxbat "E" and Mig-31D

Anon · 04-26-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Drunk

Thats only because the SR-71s were skirting Russian borders and not in the heart of Russia, far from the SAMs. Without mid-air refuelling, a 2900 odd mile ranged Blackbird won't make it across the Atlantic. Unlike the Concord, it'll plunge into the sea and at any given point from a Russian coast / border to the middle of Russia the distance is more than 5000 km. Hence no SR-71 overflew the heart of Russia only the outskirts. Recee Foxbats are strictly made for Mach 3, the Mach 2.83 speed was for longer service life of the engines since during maintainence overhauls fan blades, bearing, etc. had to be replaced regularly. Also, no F-15 flies at Mach 2.5+ above 30,000 ft. it is 15% faster only at sea level from where it cannot intercept a Foxbat flying 90,000 ft. up. A Foxbat has gone upto 118,898 ft., which is still a record no SR-71 has ever beat

From here it is clearly evident that everyone is just jealous that Russia and a few of its combatant ally cronies have an unrivalled Mach 3 interceptor. But regardless of every other novice’s 2 cent opinion, like it or not IAF Foxbats have always “crossed the fence” beyond hostile borders at Mach 3, like it or not.

BZZZZZZZZZZZZT, wrong.

I HIGHLY reccomend you read the book "Sled driver" by a former USAF SR-71 pilot. The SR-71 is the fastest and highest flying KNOWN operational A/C in the history of man...period. SR-71s have also photographed EVERY SQUARE INCH of the former Soviet Union during operational sorties.

As far as your ridiculous comments wrt the F-15: You are clueless beyond all comprehension...

F15C Specs(From globalsecurity.org):

Speed 1,875 mph (Mach 2.5-plus). 1,433 kt (1,650 mph; 2655 km/h) maximum level speed 'clean' at high altitude
Ceiling: 65,000 feet operational, 80,000 feet absolute.

indianguy4u · 04-26-2006, 12:19 PM

Can any one the post the specs of SR-71 & Mig 25?

04-26-2006, 10:08 AM	#57 (permalink)
Captain Drunk Banished Join Date: 01-02-06 Location: Goa, India Posts: 825	You're not reading correctly, because Snipe said the F-15 flies at Mach 2.5+, which obviously it dosen't and above 30,000 ft. it would fly much slower, Mach 2.5 being 'clean' only at sea level since a jets speed is 15% faster closer to the surface than higher up. The ceiling for an F-15 is around 65,000 ft. a Mig-25R is just too fast and too high for it to catch up with, so he meant an F-15 is chasing a Foxbat at something like 80,000 ft., at Mach 2.5+ its impossible. In May 1997, when an IAF Foxbat zoomed low over Islamabad with a deafening noise it was thought that the PAF didn't scramble enough of their F-16s, since they then thought the better of it. For, no plane could reach anywhere near a Foxbat. PAF still believes that the IAF's Foxbat pilot deliberately broke the sound barrier to rub it into PAF minds that they had nothing that could get close to a MiG-25. The IAF states, "Foxbat pilots have only one regret: they get no combat experience. There are no dogfights, no manoeuvres, for the plane does not encounter an enemy at that speed and height." Now as for the SR-71, it doesn't have the unrefuelled range to go deep into places like Tomsk or Baikonur that lie beyond 4000 km from international airspace. So the SR-71 cannot go there, only perhaps the Baltic or Bering Seas. Unnecessarily quit arguing like BK, it makes no sense. Last edited by Captain Drunk : 04-26-2006 at 10:39 AM.

04-26-2006, 12:19 PM	#60 (permalink)
indianguy4u Real Madrid CF *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 03-07-05 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,213 Country:	Can any one the post the specs of SR-71 & Mig 25? __________________ Hala Madrid!!

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04-26-2006, 08:02 AM	#52 (permalink)
Serbianpsyco Regular Join Date: 04-19-06 Posts: 35	Ok heres the Pictures see you put the name MIGnifecent see that means that it was really good for the SR-71 they forgot to put the A between the S and the R so it could SAR and thats why you add on Sarcrastic meanining biggest piss of junk.

04-26-2006, 09:55 AM	#56 (permalink)
urmomma158 the real plastic *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 03-05-06 Location: NJ Turnpike Posts: 937 Country:	Hey Drunk you jackass F15's have destroyed Foxbats while no F15 has ever been lost to a foxbat, none have been lost ever(a2a). You seem to be one of those ******s that smokes crack. Funny how foxbats have been buried in the sand as well. I'd like to see what a foxbat can do against a THAAD battery. Also F 15's can go mach 2.5 and have even went up to 90,000 feet shows how much you know.

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