GGTharos

Why do you think the Typhoon would win?
It's a who sees the other guy first deal, and head-on there's about as much of a Raptor to see as there is of a Typhoon. The Typhoon might have an advantage here with its IRST (first look), assuming that thing can scan a large enough sector fast enough.

But other than that ... both have high off-bore missiles ... it's a bit of a toss-up.

Then again, I don't see why either would be running silent; an F-22 would be getting fed info from other F-22's or other sources, and the tiffy would be doing a lot of the same.

The difference is, 'I can see you, but you can't see me' ...

EAGLE22

put theres the first point...

for one F-22 you get two EF2000's, but Eurofighter has IRST (f-22 not), Eurofighter has more agility, those are both good advantages for the half price.

USAF has to think about it.

GGTharos

Correct. Ever heard of 'you get what you pay for?'

Correct, but not terribly relevant; the F-22 will simply use its radar instead, and reliably track both EF's at the same time, and attack both at the same time. Further more, radar capability far out-ranges the IRST ... and missiles out-range the IRST also (when used to detect fighters head-on)

Definitely incorrect. Who told you that? :D
The F-22 has a very high TWR and thrust vectoring, the first one giving it a high sustained turning rate and acceleration, the latter enhanced maneuverability on top of all that. Furthermore, an F-22 flies -clean-, whereas an EF must fly with external stores, adding some drag and thus reducing its effective TWR.


I think they already have. That's why the F-22 is a frightening air to air monster.

Jimmy

You realize simulations run by the Brits gave the Raptor a 10 to 1 kill ratio against Su-35s launching AA-12 missiles, and the Typhoon "only" racked up a 4.5 to 1 kill ratio against the same, right?

Editted to reflect the actual results, not random BS I thought I remembered, haha.

wabpilot

Whichever plane is flown by the freak with the strongest set of reading glasses.

Trust me, the machine is of secondary importance to the man in it.

avon1944

The Typhoon Test Pilot Craig 'Butz' Penrice described how he envisioned two aircraft would be used in an interview. He said, NATO/USAF/RAF's current plan to use the F-22 is, the F-22 would go over the opposition's territory ahead of a strike group and kill any organized opposition/ interceptors as they rise to meet the strike package. The Typhoon would attack any interceptors that would try and get to close to the strike package.
The F-22 would go ahead of the strike package because of its unique capabilities which allow it to do so.

Adrian