Iraq News Thread

[lulldapull]

Lull,

Don't call Musharraf a 'gandoo' (passive homosexual).

I maybe an Indian, but he is the Head of a State. Your native country. Show some reverence.

no you are an Indian buddy! Not maybe!

"Revererance"???? This is not Lord Shiva temple pal, where you pay reverance to that black dick rendition of his highness!

And as far as reverance is concerned, its time you paid reverence to my 'lulldapull'

god you are a joker Ray, made me laugh man, I already like you!

P.S. Hey between me and you man, is that black cylinder with that white line goin across? is that really a depiction of Lord Shiva's giant 'lulldapull"? if it is man, then Lord Shiva mut've been da man!

[Ray]

Lull,

There are Hindus on this forum.

However, you will notice that there is no howling, wailing, breast beating, hitting oneself with chains and yelping for the Moderators and the Administrators.[/SIZE]

That is what is INDIA. More TOLERANT, friend, MORE TOLERANT.That is what is INDIA. More TOLERANT, friend, MORE TOLERANT.

In so far as Lord Shiva. I am rather sketchy on the subject. Maybe some one better qualified can explain. This much I know is that is symbolic and has deeper meaning that the physical form. I wish I knew more so that I could explain.

For instance, if you read DA VINCI CODE, there are many symbolic rituals that might appear erotica. But it is not. They are supposed to be symbolic. In fact, the book has aroused serious doubts in my mind. There is a lot of sense of blending Nature and natural phenomena.

For instance 'what the birds and bees do', is but a symbolism for the act of procreation. One would be a fool to use them in the act!

Who knows, but those saying of the Grand Ayotollan posted on this forum, which raised such a stink, was possibly symbolic and not a call for unnatural acts. Even that kissing fully on the lips deep symbolism. Who knows.

Maybe even your ranting and raving is symbolic. There might be deep meaning behind those lines of yours!

[lulldapull]

"deeper meaning"?? Hmmm. Let me think how deep it actually goes in.....



Comeon Ray, quit trippin on me Goddamnit! you'r crackin me up man.

You can try being wishy washy about it, but man, Lord Shiva's black cylindrical dick with a white line on it is a classic!

Hell I almost fell over backwards in a convulsion when i heard from this hindu guy in Karachi once that it actually represents lord Shiva's dick...Man I laughed so Godamn hard

Anyway don't get me wrong man, I like your religion! INMO its a pretty colourful and cool religion. I have always been intrigued by it...

P.S. I liked The Da vinci code too! and next time I come across this persistant Hari Krishna dude at Devon ave. here in Chicago, I'll take that free/ promotional copy of the Rig Veda from him!

[Confed999]

I like your religion!

Ray isn't Hindu...

[lulldapull]

Here's a nice little article from the New American ( an outlet for our JBS publications ) Goes to show ppl here that this Illawi is nothing but a criminal who should also be hanged. He has been playin judge, jury and executioner for a few months now. Vince Cannistraro was on oath when he made these statements about his sorry ass. Enjoy:

Hands-on Despotism in Iraq

In the build-up to the December 1989 invasion of Panama, reports circulated in the American media that then-Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega killed several of his political enemies himself, personally dispatching each victim with a bullet to the back of the head. This detail was the finishing touch to the portrait of Noriega as a bestial tyrant worthy of being deposed at the point of U.S. bayonets. Similar accounts have been offered regarding Saddam Hussein. In both instances, those accusations are entirely plausible.

Now comes the following news out of "liberated" Iraq: "Iyad Allawi, the new Prime Minister of Iraq, pulled a pistol and executed as many as six suspected insurgents at a Baghdad police station, just days before Washington handed control of the country to his interim government, according to two people who allege they witnessed the killings." The account in Australia’s Sydney Morning Herald continues: "[The witnesses say] the prisoners — handcuffed and blindfolded — were lined up against a wall in a courtyard adjacent to the maximum-security cell block in which they were held.... [The witnesses] say Dr. Allawi told onlookers the victims had each killed as many as 50 Iraqis and they ‘deserved worse than death.’... Dr. Allawi shot each young man in the head as about a dozen Iraqi policemen and four Americans from the Prime Minister’s personal security team watched in stunned silence."

Allawi, who spent 33 years living in exile, "has blood on his hands" from his days as a "paid Muhabarat [secret police] agent for the Iraqis," comments former CIA official Vincent Cannisatraro, who describes his career prior to being the UN-approved "democratic" leader of Iraq as "dirty stuff." U.S. officials in Baghdad, noted the Australian paper, "have not made an outright denial of the allegations." An e-mail from U.S. ambassador John Negroponte stated: "If we attempted to refute each [rumor], we would have no time for other business. As far as this embassy’s press office is concerned, this case is closed."

[Ray]

Lull,

You are cute.

Where do you pull out these 'gems' from?

From some Magic Guild?

Oh yes, my religion (I have none though) is terriffic. Thanks. You are ever so kind as always.

Let's say I am an emancipated Moslem. Does it make me a 'kaffir'? Let's say I am a Hindu. Does it make me a heathen? Let's say I am a Christian. Does it make me ruler of the world and the third cousin of Bush. Let's say I am Buddihist, does it make me a pacifist?

What I am is a pagan. Burn me at the stake if you wish!

I am a pagan.

I love the world and all creations of God. Call him by whatever you like. God is nothing more than Gooodness and Love. Spread his message in the scriptures of your own religion and quit the controverisal stuff.

Yahoo, koi mujhe Junglee kahay! (My translation: Yahoo. call me a pagan if you wish).

[smilingassassin]

Lull you still haven't answered Confeds questions....

How was the Iraq war elligal?
Where is this big lie?

Iraq is the ME's last chance, 10 years down the road Oil is going to get mighty scarce, and when the ME starts running out of money, they start running out of Food. The ME needs to convert to a democratic style govt, that can flurish not just on the money it gets from oil, but from its people being free, happy, employed members of society. Stability in the region needs to be achived before all the oil starts pumping thin.

Want proof? look here: http://www.berclo.net/page02/02en-chessgame-2.html

If things are the way they were before Saddam was removed the ME will be in a sorry state. You think the "its not our problem" opinion exists now, wait till the ME runs out of oil. You'll be fighting amoungst yourselves as always, the difference being if you attack the wrong outside country you'll likely get a FAR more heavy handed responce then ever before.

The ME is nothing without oil, if it dosn't redefine itself before its oil runs out it truely will be "nothing".

[Confed999]

Here's a nice little article from the New American

Got a link for verification? Any confirming reports, other than the one guy?

[lulldapull]

man I go away for a couple of hours and all of you boys get hard ons???

Comeon now, be a little patient. Unlike you cheez pumpers, I have a real job!

Now coming back to the topic, well, I have only one suggestion, its about God-damn time you all signed up for the 'JBS' newsletter. The John Birch Society is looking for new membes, and membership is open to all! I got this and many many other mind opening articles to post, and will be potin em as soon a sthis God-damn pdf file thing is sorted out!

Just be patient folks, and in the meanwhile check out 'The New American' at your local library, or newstand.

[lulldapull]

Statement from ALA President-Elect Michael Gorman on the
destruction of Department of Justice documents


CHICAGO -- The following statement has been issued by President-Elect Michael Gorman, representing President Carol Brey-Casiano, who is currently in Guatemala representing the Association:

Last week, the American Library Association learned that the Department of Justice asked the Government Printing Office Superintendent of Documents to instruct depository libraries to destroy five publications the Department has deemed not "appropriate for external use." The Department of Justice has called for these five public documents, two of which are texts of federal statutes, to be removed from depository libraries and destroyed, making their content available only to those with access to a law office or law library.

The topics addressed in the named documents include information on how citizens can retrieve items that may have been confiscated by the government during an investigation. The documents to be removed and destroyed include: Civil and Criminal Forfeiture Procedure; Select Criminal Forfeiture Forms; Select Federal Asset Forfeiture Statutes; Asset forfeiture and money laundering resource directory; and Civil Asset Forfeiture Reform Act of 2000 (CAFRA).

ALA has submitted a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request for the withdrawn materials in order to obtain an official response from the Department of Justice regarding this unusual action, and why the Department has requested that documents that have been available to the public for as long as four years be removed from depository library collections. ALA is committed to ensuring that public documents remain available to the public and will do its best to bring about a satisfactory resolution of this matter.

Librarians should note that, according to policy 72, written authorization from the Superintendent of Documents is required to remove any documents. To this date no such written authorization in hard copy has been issued.





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[Confed999]

Statement from ALA President-Elect Michael Gorman on the
destruction of Department of Justice documents

This belongs in a new thread. Also, please post your articles with links to the source.

[lulldapull]

This belongs in a new thread. Also, please post your articles with links to the source.

oh my bad, I forgot to link the article with the john Ashcrofts orderin of the burning of them documents!

So it is 9-11 and Iraq related. The link is 'The New American', If i post the direct link from my browser it'll be a copyright violation.

So I will add, this article, courtesy of The new American. Go to their website guys, and read this full article under:

Ashcroft Orders Destruction of DOJ Documents

[lulldapull]

And here is another from the New American:

Vol. 20, No. 15
July 26, 2004
Table of Contents More on the Military
Order This Issue


First Signs of Draft Renewal?

"The U.S. Army is planning an involuntary mobilization of thousands of reserve troops to maintain adequate force levels in Iraq and Afghanistan," reported Reuters on June 28.

Drawing on the seldom-used Individual Ready Reserve (IRR), composed of soldiers who have completed their active-duty commitments, the involuntary mobilization — which is, in principle, a draft — will involve roughly 5,600 soldiers.

"These individuals are being called back to fill specific shortages for specific jobs," an unidentified senior Defense Department official told the wire service. "We’re not calling up units, we’re just using all the existing assets in theater and we’re augmenting these assets with these individuals — various occupational specialties, various different types of officers running the whole gamut."

While soldiers in the IRR "have served their voluntary obligation in the Army, they can still be mobilized involuntarily for several years after returning to civilian life," Reuters explained. "Sometimes there’s a misperception by some of the individuals … that ‘I’ve done my obligation, I’ve been in the Army, thank you very much, and I’m done,’" continued the defense official. "But you’re not done."

"If there was any doubt that this administration was conducting a pseudo-draft, this call-up should dispel that doubt," commented Rep. Rick Larsen (D-Wash.), who sits on the House Armed Services Committee. At least one prominent neoconservative war hawk candidly calls for a full-fledged return to conscription.

"The U.S. military is operating at about as high a tempo as it can," commented Frank Gaffney, who served in the Department of Defense under President Reagan. "In short, you may need to move rather more directly and swiftly towards a draft than most of us are prepared to contemplate right now."

As previously reported in these pages, the Selective Service System (SSS) is ramping up preparations for the draft — just in case. And an obscure section in the No Child Left Behind Act would prove quite useful to the SSS should the draft be renewed. Notes investigative reporter Dave Eberhardt: "Helping [SSS] to reach its goals and objectives is a little-known provision of the No Child Left Behind Act that requires schools to provide contact information for every student — upon pain of losing federal aid dollars."

[Confed999]

Iraq related.

But this is actually the "Iraq News Thread". This story would be American news. BTW, it seems posting the full story is copyright infringement, linking to a web page is not.

[Confed999]

The U.S. Army is planning an involuntary mobilization of thousands of reserve troops

It's not involuntary, they signed up for it.

BTW, this one should be in the American Military Issues forum.